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Some more observations in the world of American magazines. The November 2 issue of Entertainment Weekly has a couple of articles of interest to slashers, both sobering but with glimmers of hope.

Out of Sight, by Adam Very. Almost two years after ''Brokeback Mountain'' raked in $178 million worldwide, no major studio has greenlit a single gay film. What is keeping movies in the closet -- and what should Hollywood be learning from TV?


The discussion of the gay-themed scripts that are in development but are stuck in "development hell" will make you ache to think of them languishing. And there's also a sidebar showcasing recent films that should have been all about the gay subtext (300, I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry, Blades of Glory, etc.) but seemed to protest, "We're NOT queer," at every turn.

A Lovely Outing, by Mark Harris (one of EW's The Final Cut columnists; Stephen King is another). Why J.K. Rowling's revelation is a rare positive sign at a particularly bad moment to be a gay consumer of pop culture.


After all the "this is shocking, this is one step too much" mainstream articles we've seen on Dumbledore's outing, this is so uplifting I could cry. "It's often said that if every gay person in the world were to turn purple overnight, homophobia would disappear: In other words, fewer people would be inclined to vilify other human beings if they woke up one day and discovered that they'd been aiming stones at their college roommate, their aunt, their grocer, or their grandson. Statistics bear this out: People who have a gay family member or friend have more enlightened attitudes about homosexuality than those who don't. What Rowling has done, brilliantly, is to turn Dumbledore purple. She didn't reveal his sexuality in order to unlock a new way of reading the books, or as a provocation. She simply told the world that a main character in the best-loved books of the last 10 years is homosexual, and asked her audience to contend with it -- and with the fact that it shouldn't matter." And what's more, Harris subtly outs himself in this article. Go you, Mr. Harris.

Date: 2007-10-30 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
Very interesting articles, both of them (as were the disgusting comments left on the Dumbledore one, but anyway). I've pretty much given up completely on American movies and television, not just for the gay thing but for the portrayals of women and anyone over the age of thirty-five--it's become quite literally infantile, with all the refusal to engage with even surface reality that that entails. Or, to put it more succinctly, bye, Hollywood, I don't pay to be insulted.

Date: 2007-10-30 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Some days I don't know whom to blame. I remember when there was a rash of submarine films, and I thought to myself, the lesson here is not that Hollywood should avoid historical films without women. The lesson is that real life needs women at the heart of everything--war, business, politics, crime--so that the films made about history in 50 years reflects that there were women all over the place in everything. Which is, y'know, uplifting and sad at the same time. Because as much as I like to imagine women can kick ass just as hard as men that doesn't mean that kicking ass is a noble aspiration. Especially in war, buisness, politics, and crime.

Date: 2007-10-30 04:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kaiz.livejournal.com
Thanks for the links! Oh, and yeah, a shit-ton the comments on that EW article are entirely made of batshitinsane. O_o

Date: 2007-10-30 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Heh, do you know, I hadn't even looked at them, hadn't even scrolled down that far to see there were comments, as I had read the hard copy and just opened the online pages to make sure they were the right links. Now I'm not sure if I wanna look. :D

Date: 2007-10-30 04:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] melusina
Great stuff - thanks for the links!

Date: 2007-10-30 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
You are welcome! Glad they were of interest! :D

Date: 2007-10-30 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adina-atl.livejournal.com
Blades of Glory was showing on the plane coming home from England in September. I watched it without the sound and it was the slashiest damn thing I've ever seen. I've heard that with the sound on it's rather annoying--like the "brotherly love" gen fan fiction that includes "but we're not gay" in ever other paragraph.

Honestly, my biggest beef with the movie-without-sound was that the fem character was waaaaayyyyy too femmy.

Date: 2007-10-30 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Het is not annoying. "We're not gay and must take great pains to show you how we are not" IS annoying.

Date: 2007-10-30 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adina-atl.livejournal.com
Precisely. I like het and love gen, but I hate it when the author clearly knows the subtext is slash so feels compelled to contradict it in the text. For that matter, I'm no more fond of slash where the author spends more time cutting down the (canonical or fanonical) het relationship than building up the gay one.

Date: 2007-10-30 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
In my Smutmas requests I've said that Evil Ginny is a turn-off for me, because even though I think the Harry/Ginny is the dullest romance in existence, getting rid of her by making her EVOL just smacks of overkill. Y'know?

Date: 2007-10-30 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adina-atl.livejournal.com
Evil!Ginny could be interesting, if and only if it wasn't just being used as an excuse to get Harry together with Hermione/Ron/Giant Squid/OTP-of-author's-choice. I can imagine a fascinating story where Harry realizes that he's in love with who he thinks she is, not who she really is, and that he loves what she represents--family, stability, a place in society--without seeing her ambition, her "not Mrs. Weasley" identity. But first you would have to come up with a realistic reason for her to be "evil," some plausible goal that Harry would find unacceptable. Honestly I think evil!Hermione would be easier to write, as she nobly and with the best of intentions goes out to save the Muggle world from all its non-magical ills--AIDS, global warming, voting for the wrong politicians--without paying the faintest attention to anything the recipients of her largesse think or say.

Date: 2007-10-30 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animamea.livejournal.com
That's what I've been saying about the Dumbledore thing all along. Why didn't JKR out him in the books? Because it's from the POV of his *students* and it's none of their damn business what he does on weekends and holidays.

Date: 2007-10-30 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
"Nitwit! Blubber! Oddment! Tweak! I have a date with Professor Flitwick and I hope he remembered the raspberry-flavored condoms this time, bye kiddies!" I o_O you.

Date: 2007-10-30 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alchemia.livejournal.com
it might not be their business, but that never stopped kids from gossiping about things, or from adults doing so. I find it really strange no one gossiped, speculated, or made accusations about it in all of harry's years in school.

There rumours about students and teachers when I was in school, a couple students who were out, and one teacher reprimanded a student for telling a homophobic joke in class and went into telling us all about his gay brother. When did everyone get so uptight that kids never hear or talk about this, ever, or kids so ignorant they wouldn't have even a brief thought/worry/curiosity about it? Maybe if the het romance was played down a bit lot, it wouldn't seem like a deliberate avoidance.

Date: 2007-11-01 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I am still hung up on my own idea that the books would not focus on Harry's Soulmate Romance--I expected to see him shake his burdens and be a happy young man...get parental figures...maybe start some serious dating. So what you say about playing down the het romance rings with me for other reasons as well.

Date: 2007-10-30 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christwise.livejournal.com
Go Steve Carell!

Seriously, Milk would be the second gay character he'd play and he's asking to play it. Not like Jake G. and Heath who were all "hey, kissing a man is just like kissing another person!" Thanks guys.

Speaking of which, the article does leave out Little Miss Sunshine which has a gay for no real reason except that he's gay. There are a couple jokes about it but if he had been in love with a girl it wouldn't have changed the movie much at all.

Still, go EW!

Date: 2007-11-01 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I'm glad they threw some attention on this, I really am.

Date: 2007-10-31 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geoviki.livejournal.com
Those were both great articles. Thanks for the heads up.

Date: 2007-11-01 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
You are welcome! Glad you enjoyed them!

Date: 2007-10-31 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-blum.livejournal.com
After all the "this is shocking, this is one step too much" mainstream articles we've seen on Dumbledore's outing, this is so uplifting I could cry. I thought exactly the same thing :)
Hm. I have in my bookmarks some good articles/columns about this whole thing, maybe you've seen some of them, but i thought you'd like to check them out:
"Gay wizards, hobbits and angels: a celebration" [http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/books/2007/10/gay_wizards_hobbits_and_angels.html]
Neil Gaiman's comments on his blog when a reader asked him if he agreed with that "a writer confident in her powers wouldn't feel the need to announce details like this" (refering to DD's outing) [http://www.neilgaiman.com/journal/2007/10/flowers-of-romance.html]
More jkr comments, after Carnegie Hall [http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=2007-10-23T152444Z_01_N23210446_RTRUKOC_0_US-ARTS-ROWLING.xml&pageNumber=0&imageid=∩=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage2] (In The-Leaky-Longe they have the video of this press conference)
And last, grrliz post [http://grrliz.livejournal.com/790587.html] collecting the best ones (IMO) that came out after the DD announcement.

Date: 2007-11-01 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I love these links but I love your icon even more. ^_^

Date: 2007-11-03 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-blum.livejournal.com
glad you enjoyed them ^_^
And yeah, that icon (by [livejournal.com profile] joordanlee) is pretty amazing :D I always sustained voldie is not to blame, it's not his fault he has a social disease ;)!

Date: 2007-10-31 09:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeddy83.livejournal.com
I don't know if it is better or worse that there has hardly been a peep over here about Dumbledore being gay. No outrage, no joy, nothing.

Date: 2007-11-01 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Hmm. True. Maybe the idea of him being fictional kind of put it on the "not news" page? ^_^

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