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For some reason, I am incapable of understanding the way
yuletide works.
Every year I mutter, "Maybe I should sign up for that," and every year I share my mutterings with people and am met with, "Oh, it doesn't work that way." So is there someone out there who, rather than saying, "The rules are distributed over these nineteen pages" can summarize the process in, say, something like three long bullet points of text stating, "Go here, do this, be sure not to do this, and your obligation will then be to do this by this time in this way"?
HELP MY TINY BRAIN.
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Every year I mutter, "Maybe I should sign up for that," and every year I share my mutterings with people and am met with, "Oh, it doesn't work that way." So is there someone out there who, rather than saying, "The rules are distributed over these nineteen pages" can summarize the process in, say, something like three long bullet points of text stating, "Go here, do this, be sure not to do this, and your obligation will then be to do this by this time in this way"?
HELP MY TINY BRAIN.
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Date: 2008-10-22 12:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 12:55 am (UTC)1.) Nominations! This part is entirely optional! From now till Halloween, if you want to, you can nominate up to six fandoms that you'd like to see represented in some way: things you want to read, things you want to write, things you just think someone ought to be writing even if it's not you.
2.) Sign-ups! This will happen after Halloween. You don't have to have nominated anything to sign up! You can just choose from among the 1600 fandoms that other people will have nominated. You can request up to four fandoms, and offer to write in as many as you like.
3.) Writing! You get an assignment after signups close-- it'll be sometime after Election Day. You'll have until a few days before Christmas to write your story and post it. You can stalk your recipient and see if they have any additional requests or preferences, but you don't have to.
And then on Christmas morning, everything goes live and we all rejoice. It's easy! It's the best thing there is about Christmas! You should do it!
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Date: 2008-10-22 12:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 01:08 am (UTC)Of course, most people do honor their recipients' details, and even stalk their journals to find out what sorts of fic they like. But it's not required.
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Date: 2008-10-22 01:22 am (UTC)Oh, that's good to know!
I'm honestly more interested in the writing than the requesting, so it's not a problem in that direction.
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Date: 2008-10-24 09:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 01:11 am (UTC)For each fandom that you request or offer to write, you can specify one or several characters or "any" if you are open to any characters, and that will affect how the assignments get assigned. If you say "any" in your offer to write, you might well get a request for a pairing you wouldn't have thought of writing.
Filling out the form is a little tricky but the fest is all kinds of awesome. I think you'll have a good time if you join in.
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Date: 2008-10-22 01:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 01:13 am (UTC)So, like, you offer to write the aforementioned Newsfic, Jesse's Girl, Scarecrow and Mrs King, Garfield, and Toy Story. You MIGHT get someone who requested four of those, and then you would be lucky and get to pick. Or, you might get someone who requested M*A*S*H*, Garfield, Stone Soup, and the Mary Tyler Moore Show. You COULD see the MTM prompt and go OH I like that even better! and write that even though it wasn't your match, but you would only be guaranteed one match, which you got.
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Date: 2008-10-22 01:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 12:57 am (UTC)You sign up when it's time (not yet), and then after signups close, you get a set of 3-4 assignments of which at least one will match what you said you could do. And then you write that, and upload it by the deadline. There will be about 5ish weeks.
Do you want me to poke you when it's time to sign up?
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Date: 2008-10-22 01:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 01:07 am (UTC)It's made note of. Taken down. Written down. Every fandom that gets nominated on your final list of six is on the eventual list of possible fandoms. However, if you pick six, then redo and pick a different six, your first six will only be on the giant list if someone else nominated them.
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Date: 2008-10-22 01:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 01:05 am (UTC)Nominations are not a part of the sign-up process, technically, but if there is a/some fandom(s) you want to be really sure you get to ask for fic in, you should nominate them. The list of fandoms on the nomination page can be added to, and as long as this is not a fandom that is excluded (because it is non-tiny), it's okay.
So, like, if I really wanted to read, um, Mike Wallace/Paula Zahn/Dan Rather porn, I would first look in the ginormous list in the fandom pull-down to see if I could find a "RPF - News Anchors" fandom or similar. If not, I would make one, consistent with the format there. Then, after submitting that, I would populate or add to the characters list for my (new, if I just added it) fandom; I might possibly also throw in Katie Couric and Ted Koppel just to add flexibility, though not if I don't think I would ask for them ever.
Then, when it was time, I would make one of my requests be for RPF - News Anchors, and specify the fic had to include Mike, Paula, and Dan. This wouldn't guarantee I get porn or a threesome, and since I have to give at least three requests and I only get one back, wouldn't guarantee newsfic, either; I might have another of my requests be the one that matches the author who gets it.
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Date: 2008-10-22 01:25 am (UTC)But...but that's tragic. *sobs*
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Date: 2008-10-22 01:26 am (UTC)You pick a fandom. The main characters for the fandom you choose from the list which appears by holding "ctrl" when you click them. Then there is a text box to give extra details; it's actually ENTIRELY OPTIONAL for the writer, but people are so thorough as to go to the person they're writing for's LiveJournal and check for extra detail, so feel free to be spare; pairings, scenarios, prompts, kinks, etc. This is all fairly standard. You do this four times, preferably for four different fandoms.
When telling them what you will write for, once again you go through and select fandoms. Once again, the list of characters is available for you to pick (who appears there is all decided during nominations)
Picking the "Any" option available in a fandom with only say, Harry, Draco & Snape, would mean you're saying, I don't mind writing requests for Harry/Draco, Harry/Snape, Draco/Snape, Harry/Draco/Snape or fic about any of those three alone. If you just want to say you'll write for Harry/Draco and Harry/Snape, you would select Harry Potter, then Harry and Draco. Then select Harry Potter again and select Harry and Snape.
Offering is a long tedious process, and it's often better just to go through and look for minor fandoms you know than scroll through waiting for ones you're willing to write for. Also, Murphy's Law states that the fandom you are most concerned about selecting (Did I really just click 'Enid Blyton'? Oh well, I've read all the books and no-one will want fic anyway...) is one of the fandoms you will end up with.
You have to select more than four fandoms. In return, you get someone else's request; the four you filled out go on to someone else. You may have requested fic in say (pretend it's not Yuletide and major fandoms are allowed) SGA, Death Note, Harry Potter and Loveless. However, your writer has only offered to write SGA and doesn't know any of those other fandoms. There only needs to be one match, there's no guarantee the other three requests will be fandoms you even recognize.
But then, that's the fun of Yuletide; trying new things, discovering new canon, writing for characters you would barely think about otherwise, scrambling for the deadline, discovering virtue in new pairings and always the joy of giving someone something they could have received nowhere else.
If it really does seem like way too much hassle for you, there is usually a pinch-hit mailing list to cover dropouts, and unfilled requests are thrown out to anyone and everyone over Christmas in "Yuletide Madness".
Some final things:
- Everything's anonymous until the Christmas deadline.
- Failing to produce a fic can get you banninated from future Yuletides.
- There are a lot of people available for hand-holding, walking through uploading a story, or anonymous beta-reading over at
...I hope this didn't tell you anything you didn't already know.
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Date: 2008-10-22 01:30 am (UTC)One other thing: Must one request? Can one decide to offer only? That is, say, "I'll write in any of these; no one has to write anything for me, thanks"?
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Date: 2008-10-22 01:37 am (UTC)I don't know; it's not really covered in the FAQ. I think, because the actual sorting is done by some strange and marvellous code/program which matches everyone up, the answer might be 'no'. You'd definitely have to ask. Though I do know if you join the pinch-hit list, you get to reply and say "hey, I'd like to write that one" without having anything written for you.
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Date: 2008-10-22 02:27 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 03:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-24 09:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 01:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 02:05 am (UTC)(Actually, you can read the comments on this post; they help a lot.)
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Date: 2008-10-22 02:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 03:37 am (UTC)To use
Fandom: RPF - News Anchors
Characters: Mike Wallace/Paula Zahn/Dan Rather
Details: I really want hot porn between Mike and Dan while Paula watches.
Most authors will try to write what you asked for. But the person assigned to write for you might only write gen or het. If they write a gen story with Mike, Paula, and Dan arguing about the economic crisis, that's what you're going to get, and it (technically) satisfies all Yuletide requirements. And, just like with Aunt Emma's itchy sweaters, you're expected to thank the giver and be polite.
Similarly, you might prefer to write slash but be assigned to write for someone who includes the detail "No slash." If that happened, you certainly could write slash anyway, without penalty. But it would be nicer to try to write what your recipient wants.
The best thing about Yuletide, of course, is that you get everyone else's presents as well as your own. If your own gift is a clunker, you can console yourself with one of the other 2000 stories. And it takes a little of the pressure off you as the writer knowing that your recipient has other options if your story isn't to their taste or isn't the best thing you've ever written.
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Date: 2008-10-23 08:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 08:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-23 08:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 11:17 am (UTC)Now I guess I have to decide on another two at least? Sounds like fun.
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Date: 2008-10-22 02:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 11:38 pm (UTC)But I entered my nominations: Alex Rider, Gatekeepers, Life tv show (I just fell in love with Damien Lewis after watching him play Yassen in the Alex Rider movie), Life on Mars UK (I figure that's a fandom I know and could probably write in), and I added the Diamond Brothers (another Anthony Horowitz series) and the Young Bond series.
I guess there is just something that appeals to me about teen-age boys being in peril!
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Date: 2008-10-22 11:41 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 11:56 pm (UTC)Gatekeepers - the anime? I've not seen it. It looked interesting though.
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Date: 2008-10-23 12:16 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-23 08:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-22 11:40 am (UTC)Summary: Do Yuletide!
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Date: 2008-10-23 08:46 pm (UTC)