Am watching the film of Starship Troopers, which I added to the very top of my Netflix list the other day solely because I discovered that it contained flogging. :D
The summary looks crazy. Insects? EW! I´ll wait for you to finish and tell me if it worths it.
Meanwhile, check this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_L_Kymx9QqQ&feature=related)out. It´s from the movie Ondskan - the trailer is somewhere in youtube too.
Having read the book first, I found I was laughing too hard to actually enjoy that scene. The movie is... er... well, it has the same name as the book.
I completely understand. I personally credit the Westerns and pirate films on Saturday afternoon television during my childhood for leading to my interest (obsession) with bondage and flogging.
Oh, give me Captain Blood (http://www.errolflynn.net/Filmography/cb.htm) any day! Someday I have to write fan fic for that! Captain Blood (Errol Flynn) comforting his friend Jeremy after he is flogged... or the villain Levasseur (Basil Rathbone) abusing Captain Blood. Okay, distracted now.
Saw that movie when I was a young(er) girl and couldn't really figure out why I watched that scene over and over. Now, (in part, thanks to you, actually) I know. ;)
When I was a kid I knew perfectly well why I was fond of certain television shows, and of playing Pirates, and all that. I just had to be careful not to let anyone else know why! :D
Actually the movie's not bad, it's just not Starship Troopers. I wish they'd renamed all the characters and called it Bug Hunters or something; I'd have enjoyed it quite a lot in that case, with plenty of popcorn.
I strongly recommend that you read the book at some point. Then you'll realize why Heinlein's fans were outraged when the director in a making-of short referred to the book's "crypto-Fascist" society O_O and when he admitted that that one kind of bug shoots plasma-balls out its ass because he, the director, just "couldn't imagine bugs using technology." [facepalm] So, you're making a science fiction movie, why again...?
And the way they treated the Sergeant at the recruiting center, turning him into tasteless comic relief, is a crime.
The only part about the movie I preferred over the book was the way they equalized the gender thing a bit; all prurience aside, I liked that the girls played sports and showered with the guys, and that the characters treated it as no big deal. I really wish the world were like that.
Everything else was a hatchet-job of the book, though. :/
I've never read the book, so, taking this as a piece all on its own, it feels like a shiver-inducing piece of "humans good, aliens bad" piece of propaganda--you can feel the darkness that it's hinting at all through. So on that level it was kinda fun.
Oh, absolutely. And that's what's really annoying about it -- it is a good movie. It's just not Starship Troopers. It's like reading the James Bond books and realizing that the folks who made the movies pretty much lifted the character names and the story titles and made everything else up. :P
Angie
PS -- and yeah, I know your icon is appropriate. [wry smile] Can't help it. ;)
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Date: 2008-05-10 12:07 am (UTC)*googles it immediately out of, huh, academic interest*
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Date: 2008-05-10 12:16 am (UTC)Meanwhile, check this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_L_Kymx9QqQ&feature=related)out. It´s from the movie Ondskan - the trailer is somewhere in youtube too.
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Date: 2008-05-10 12:37 am (UTC)Oh, give me Captain Blood (http://www.errolflynn.net/Filmography/cb.htm) any day! Someday I have to write fan fic for that! Captain Blood (Errol Flynn) comforting his friend Jeremy after he is flogged... or the villain Levasseur (Basil Rathbone) abusing Captain Blood. Okay, distracted now.
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Date: 2008-05-11 05:47 am (UTC)Now you've got me thinking about all the movies I watched when I was younger, trying to remember if there were any hints of BDSM. roflmao
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Date: 2008-05-19 04:14 pm (UTC)Actually the movie's not bad, it's just not Starship Troopers. I wish they'd renamed all the characters and called it Bug Hunters or something; I'd have enjoyed it quite a lot in that case, with plenty of popcorn.
I strongly recommend that you read the book at some point. Then you'll realize why Heinlein's fans were outraged when the director in a making-of short referred to the book's "crypto-Fascist" society O_O and when he admitted that that one kind of bug shoots plasma-balls out its ass because he, the director, just "couldn't imagine bugs using technology." [facepalm] So, you're making a science fiction movie, why again...?
And the way they treated the Sergeant at the recruiting center, turning him into tasteless comic relief, is a crime.
The only part about the movie I preferred over the book was the way they equalized the gender thing a bit; all prurience aside, I liked that the girls played sports and showered with the guys, and that the characters treated it as no big deal. I really wish the world were like that.
Everything else was a hatchet-job of the book, though. :/
Angie
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Date: 2008-05-19 04:28 pm (UTC)Angie
PS -- and yeah, I know your icon is appropriate. [wry smile] Can't help it. ;)
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