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One day after:

Better impression of the book now, now that I've moved away from the reading and am on to the processing of what the book told us.

I think the plot is overall satisfying as a conclusion. This doesn't mean that I found the reading itself fabulous, because the exposition was thick and bogged the pace down, and the escapades had a foolish air to them that sapped my sense of real danger --for almost every death, I thought, "No, really? Huh. How about that." But as far as the plot of it goes, here are the major points with which this book deals that do make it a clever conclusion, if not executed as well as I would like.

-Dumbledore and Snape's true natures are revealed at last and their motives are utterly the opposite of what we'd been shown in books 1-5. Dumbledore was a power-seeking manipulator who was just managing to walk the line of "for the greater good," and Snape was emotion-filled, driven by sacrifice, caring about the needs of the one far more than Dumbledore ever had. How about that. Moreover, Harry discovered the truth, and learned whom he should forgive and whom he should love, and that they were also quite the opposite of what he expected.

-Voldemort truly showed himself capable of infiltrating and taking over the Wizarding World to create a totalitarian state. At-freaking-last, Voldemort was someone to be frightened of, someone with power, someone upon whose side it appeared wise to be on if you wanted to survive. And yet those who had the least bit of true wisdom demonstrated that they were acting out of fear, knew how fragile it was to serve this madman (the lesson of the Malfoys being reduced to a family unit who shared one fate).

-Harry, Ron, and Hermione as a trio did the part they had to in the war, the part they had to because it couldn't be done by force but by stealth, and they formed the head/hand/heart unit that Dumbledore knew could perform that role. The trio, formed so early in the books and so much the center of the story, needed to do that for this tale to be complete.

-Hogwarts, though abandoned for the majority of this book, plays such an important role in the books that the final battleground is shown to take place there. Another "end as you begin" factor, a large one.

-Sacrifices were made in the name of war. Hardship of the body, changes from safe familiar settings, and of course deaths. Sad, regretful deaths.

-Harry recognized the need for his own sacrifice, accepted it and submitted to it. That he was spared, however, is not a cheat, but has been set up since the end of GoF, when Dumbledore recognized that Voldemort's blood ritual suddenly meant Harry would likely be saved (even though, it appears, he could not tell this to Harry since it would have been unfair to reassure Harry on an uncertainty--and possibly obstructed Harry's ability to go into sacrifice unconditionally? Because of the nature of ritual and magic? I'm thinking that's also part of it?). I've been waiting for that to be explained and, hooray, it was every bit as big and as satifying as it hinted it was. YAY for that, one thousand times yay. For that alone I kiss JKR deeply.

-Generations move on and people are still much as they were once great evil is gone from the world, though there remains a sense that evil always returns (Nineteen years, and all is well--so far) but that good will be there to rise to it. Especially in the form of that next generation.

But I still don't like Harry using unforgivables.


As I continue to process what actually happened, I find myself moving past the coldness and into, "Wow. Cool ending for Harry and for the story." This makes me happy. I'd have liked to have felt it during the reading, I admit, but I can live with that. Far far better that things should have happened appropriately. Perhaps another reading of the book will improve on that further--I do plan to pop in the audiobook in a few days, when I get home.

(I've kept my "Whither fanfiction?" thoughts out of this post because the book deserves to be analysed without that baggage. But I'll present fanfiction thoughts later. Hell, I'll present fanfiction later. ^_^ )

Date: 2007-07-22 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ani-bester.livejournal.com
But I still don't like Harry using unforgivables.


This interested me in that all of a sudden they weren't that bad.
Ok I'd never thought Imperio *was* any worse than many other wizarding spells, especially has Harry used it, so that kinda made sense that that could be a good or evil depenidng on it's use" point.

But Crucio? That's a torture spell. I don't get that. NOt only do I not get it's rampent use I don't get the desciption, because it became more and more like any other stunning spell in how it seemed to effect people . . except Hermione maybe, if that's what Bella was using.
The effects of that spell shoudl be so blatently awful that Harry, if he successfully used it ever, should feel so bad about it's effects that he'd never use it again.

But not aonly is that not the case . . no one seemed to care.
I'm not sure where JKR was going with that.

Dumbledore was a power-seeking manipulator who was just managing to walk the line of "for the greater good,"
I feel so vindicated ^__^

Date: 2007-07-22 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyleet27.livejournal.com
Word--Harry won't cast an attack spell instead of 'obliviate' in the beginning because he'll leave that nasty stuff to Voldemort, but he'll throw around Unforgivables later, with no apparent change of heart or philosophy? No.

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Date: 2007-07-22 08:03 am (UTC)
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I think that it was meant to show how even "good" people do terrible things during war. I was a bit puzzled by how he used them, but it is possible that there was no other way to deal with the Gringotts thing, and it was very important that the operation succeeds. Crucio on the other hand I didn't really get.

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Date: 2007-07-22 07:21 am (UTC)
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What kicked me in the chest is that Snape's last words were so he could see Lily's eyes looking at him. GAH.

Date: 2007-07-22 07:29 am (UTC)
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Oh, God. You're right.

Now I'm all teary.

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Date: 2007-07-22 07:24 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] djin7.livejournal.com
The Unforgivables thing? I found it very interesting, personally. In that, Harry makes a pretty big deal about not wanting to cast curses that can kill in the beginning of the book, and is soundly roasted for his inability to be ruthless, to finish the job.

Then he uses Crucio on a Carrow and McGonagall calls him gallant.

But in the end, he never had to cast the Killing Curse, and I think that is the biggest lesson, that Expelliarmus is all you should need. Disarm. *starts to hear John Lennon*

Hm. I have meta bubbling up inside of me, and this and posts like it keep making my points. Heh. Guess I should hurry up, see if I can be counted.


Date: 2007-07-22 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] savage-maiden.livejournal.com
When Harry cast the curse, I thought that McGonagall would be shocked. What happened to her Golden Griffindor? But she dismissed it as if he had cast a Expelliarmus...
I hoped that he had to use Crucio in Bella, for everything that she had done for Sirius and Herminone.

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Date: 2007-07-22 07:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noblerot.livejournal.com
-Dumbledore and Snape's true natures are revealed at last and their motives are utterly the opposite of what we'd been shown in books 1-5.

Yeah, that was excellent. It was somewhat muted for me, though, because so many fandom readers had already figured it out; so it was one of those situations where I felt I knew more than the protagonist... and so had trouble relating to the protagonist... and it kinda went downhill from there.

Maybe I'll grow to like this book more on second reading. Right now I'm feeling kinda cranky about it.

Date: 2007-07-22 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] garillama.livejournal.com
Yeah, that was my problem. After two years, when most fanfiction just assumes that Snape is Dumbledore's man, Dumbledore's a manipulative old coot, etc., etc., those points just felt like "Well, duh. Everyone knows that." Which of course Harry didn't, so she had to write it in, but you're right, it's very hard to relate to him.

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Date: 2007-07-22 08:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] meredyth-13.livejournal.com
I would like to conjecture that the emotion was hard to find while reading, because in experiencing something that's been so anticipated, so built up, and so important (and face it, if we're fans, it's important) lends the actual process a surreal quality that almost separates us from the experience.

I know that for me actually opening the book, reading the words, felt almost distancing - how could I be reading this? How could it be the last part?

I had to stop several times to allow myself to realise that this was IT - and it was hard for me to truly immerse myself in the story because the process of actually reading the story almost overwhelmed the story itself.

Anyway, it's just a thought. I know that as much as I enjoyed the read as a whole - and I did enjoy it - even now I'm still only slowly coming to grips with the story, and all the implications of canon concluding.

Mostly I'm incredibly satisfied, and relieved, with how JK treated this last piece of our world, and the people in it. That's not without some qualms, but she has opened up so many avenues of possibility now - that whilst the canon is quietly drawn to a close, my experience of the HP world suddenly has whole new vistas lying ahead of it (both with and without the epilogue - my preference being without).

Date: 2007-07-22 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celbalrai.livejournal.com
That's exactly what I felt. I queued up at midnight and got out of the shop, only to see people sitting down and reading. I was just like "Wait, you're reading it now?! You're not going to savour it? This is the last part!". I couldn't start reading until about twelve hours later, when I said to myself that I had to get it over and done with.

I was really satisfied with the book. Almost everything is explained - but there are still some loose ends which can be sorted out in fanfiction, and there's enough ambiguity for fic writers to explore!

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Date: 2007-07-22 08:06 am (UTC)
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At-freaking-last, Voldemort was someone to be frightened of, someone with power, someone upon whose side it appeared wise to be on if you wanted to survive.

In other words, the way JKR's been TELLING us it was like during the First War. If it wasn't for the other, you know, four hundred pages of crap I would think that she had finally learned the SHOW NOT TELL rule.

and they formed the head/hand/heart unit that Dumbledore knew could perform that role.

I thought having them all choose different Hallows was a very good example of this. While I was :( abou the books, there was stuff I realllly liked and that scene was one of them.

Date: 2007-07-26 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
In other words, the way JKR's been TELLING us it was like during the First War. If it wasn't for the other, you know, four hundred pages of crap I would think that she had finally learned the SHOW NOT TELL rule.

*laughs and laughs* Yes. Exactly. Thank you.

Date: 2007-07-22 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serriadh.livejournal.com
The point about Snape and Dumbledore is excellent - and now looking back on the other books, I've noticed things in a bit of a new light. It seems so obvious now that with Snape it has always been about the emotion (despite his speeches to Harry about wearing your heart on your sleeve): he hates Harry, he fights to save him again and again and again, he spits and snarls and flounces, he riles up Sirius, he's revolted by Karkaroff and the reappearance of the Dark Mark - it's all about emotion, and yet he has to choke it all off because he doesn't talk to anyone about it and he needs to act as the loyal DE. He can't use his patronus (I'm guessing this bit) in front of many Order members because they'll know it represents Lily and they'll hate/pity him.

Whereas Dumbledore (whatever his speeches about loving Harry too much) is far more controlled and calculating; all twinkly smiles and lemon drops and never telling anyone anything useful.

Date: 2007-07-26 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
all twinkly smiles and lemon drops and never telling anyone anything useful.

And that part took me in, some--I was willing to believe we were supposed to accept Dumbledore as wise and good, and that his "Sit down, Harry, I am going to tell you everything" really was everything. Silly me, huh? ^_^

Date: 2007-07-22 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] monkshood-hp.livejournal.com
JKR was always better at plotting and creating universe (Like Joss Whedon or Russel T. Davies) than actually writing it out. Her prose is workman-like at best but then you don't read HP for the language. Way way too many escapade obstructing what JKR was trying to do -- which is about choices

I kind of agree with what you're saying about DD and Snape, except for one thing. Manipulative, yes but I don't think he's that power hungry. He avoided power for the rest of his life and the ring moment is quite emo actually -- he was trying to bring his family back together, to undo the damage. But I do think Snape is the more courageous man by far -- he actually went to DD and admitted his crime. DD was still trying to fudge the issue with Ariana.

I can take Lily/Snape the way JKR has written it. Snape didn't just 'desire' Lily like James did (ie get in her bed); Lily was Severus's soul mate. She was the only one he ever felt a deep connection to, his only link to the rest of the world -- Lily's rejection of his apologies just broke my heart. I could see why he would still hold on to it after so many years.

Date: 2007-07-26 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I can take Lily/Snape the way JKR has written it.

I can too--a lot of people are unhappy with this take, I guess, but it makes sense; it isn't out of WTF left field, so it works for me.

Date: 2007-07-22 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maeglinyedi.livejournal.com
But I still don't like Harry using unforgivables.

I didn't mind him using the Imperius Curse that much, since they were in a really tight spot at the time and they needed to get into that vault.

However, Harry using a Cruciatus because some DE spits McGonagall in the face? Dude. Seriously. That is some fucked up shit. The only way I could have seen Harry use a Cruciatus in DH was if Bellatrix or some other evil DE killed Hermione/Ron/Ginny right in front of him, and Harry then, in a fit of blinding rage, casts the curse and manages it this time (as opposed to his failure in OotP). But because someone spits a woman in the face? Just...no. I hate to say it, but that makes him no better than Voldie or any DE who uses that curse on a whim.

Date: 2007-07-22 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyewackets-paw.livejournal.com
Oh, thank you for pointing that out. As soon as I read that part I was like, "Holy crap, someones channeling their inner Voldie!"

It was just very OOC. Not to mention that Mcgonagal didn't even mention it. At all. Just a quick "Yay Harry, you're so super." and that was the end of it. psh.

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Date: 2007-07-22 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyewackets-paw.livejournal.com
All in all I liked the book. It of course had the good with the bad, but overall I had fun reading it and that's pretty much all I care about.

I loved having confirmation for Manipulative!Dumbledore and Goodguy!Snape. I think for most it was less of a surprise and more of a "Ah ha! I knew it!" moment.

I actuall didn't mind the Lily/Snape stuff it explained a lot about Snape's character and it was actually kind of cute... sort of, I had actually never imagined that would end up canon, but i'm a slasher and I try to push the possibility of het from my mind at all times. *g*

Harry/Ginny? Meh. I don't feel it at all. Didn't in book six. Don't now.

Ron/Hermione? Yeah okay. I already know they're gonna be together 4EVAR! So I didn't really give a finicky aunt's arse about their relationship in this book at all.

Epilogue? Unecessary. Plain and simple. I did however like the introduction of several new hogwarts aged students to be shipped and slashed. Teddy/James anyone?

Overall I had fun reading it. I'd read it again. That's all that really matters to me.

Date: 2007-07-23 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flammablehat.livejournal.com
Was I the only one who totally did a double-take when seeing the 'Teddy's snogging Victoire' line? I really, really thought Victoire was a guy who looks like Sirius.

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Date: 2007-07-22 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loony-moony.livejournal.com
The epilogue is aweful. I'm not saying it only as a slasher, but as a reader. It's sappy and it's uninventive and I've seen fanfics depicting the same situation far better than this. And what irked me the most about it was that everyone seemed to accept so casually that Harry and Ginny are James and Lily, The Repeat. Doesn't this DISTURB anyone? I think I wanted to spork myself. After such a good read for the rest of the book, this a wee bit spoiled the ending for me.

Date: 2007-07-22 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] persephone-blue.livejournal.com
Pieces of the epilogue fell flat for me, too, but I don't think it was awful. It was proof that everyone lived and moved on, despite the Battle of Hogwarts and the Ministry's momentary regime.

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Date: 2007-07-22 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loony-moony.livejournal.com
And I'm actually okay about using the Cruciatus on Death Eaters, because Harry is only human. It's the Imperius that I have a problem with. :/

Date: 2007-07-26 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I got a problem with all of them, me. *squirms unhappily*

Date: 2007-07-22 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] persephone-blue.livejournal.com
Yay on fanfiction! Especially Snarry, because I keep trying to turn out ideas that would make it happen, but I just can't. It's not working. Snape's death didn't hit me nearly as hard s Lupin's, but it was still horrible to read. I rarely cry when I read, but, well.

As for Harry and the Unforgivables, I think JKR was purposely building up to something, there. Through out Deathly Hallows, Harry is making one sacrifice after another, and not just people, either – going back to Hogwarts, moving on without Ron, not telling anyone but Ron and Hermy what he was up to, just all sorts of things that challenge his usual loyalty and "goodness". Using Imperius and Crucio was evidence that his good nature was being put to the breaking point, but when it all came down to the final face off between him and Voldemort, he didn't use the killing curse. He didn't. That was absolutely amazing.

In the very least, the curses he used when he used them were not for his own entertainment, as Death Eaters used them in the past. He didn't use them because he wanted to, but because he couldn't do anything else at the time. It was troubling to see him use the Imperius, but it would have been more troubling if he had decided not to at Gringotts, and Hermione or Ron had been caught, killed, and had simply become another martyr.

Date: 2007-07-22 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daybright.livejournal.com
Sometimes it´s the little things that make you snap. I think that is what happend to Harry when he used the Crucio. I also think that after everything Minerva had to watch that winter at Hogwarts, without being able to do anything to help the student she was just happy to see that particular DE crucioed after all she is just human.

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Date: 2007-07-22 09:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] capri-chan.livejournal.com
Before I read the review, I've been meaning to tell you something.

On July 19th, I had one of the best dreams ever.

I was sitting outside a supermarket or something, and I was reading HBP. The cover was the DH one, but it definitely said "Half-Blood Prince."

Except it wasn't actually HBP. It was one of your fics in published book form. Wasn't one of, you know, your actual fics. It was actually some horribly mushy Cedric/Harry thing where Harry was in fifth or sixth year, and Cedric was not only alive, but still in school. I remember, because I was confused about the inconsistency, but I shrugged it off and continued reading, and despite the fact that it had no kinks or anything (which was just weird), I still loved it because you wrote it.

And then some old ladies came up and pointed and talked with me about how great HBP was, and I smiled and nodded. But at the same time, I was this close to yelling, "Shut the fuck up and let me get back to my porn."

I think I'll read the review later. I still want some thinking time to myself. But I had to tell you that before I forgot.

Date: 2007-07-26 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
AH HA HA HA HA! Oh my god, did you REALLY dream that?? Hon, that is--that is better than a Nobel prize or an Oscar or even a friggin' PUBLISHING CONTRACT. I love you. Thank you SO MUCH for telling me about this one! I'm going to cherish it! &hearts &hearts &hearts

Date: 2007-07-22 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flammablehat.livejournal.com
Oh HP. Oh DH. Oh, oh oh. I knew I was going to come to this journal as soon as I'd finished the book. (You finished in FIVE hours? Dear God, it took me almost twelve!)

In trying to crystallize how DH went outside my expectations, I keep thinking back to how OotP disappointed me and HBP was so very satisfying. DH witnessed a removal from normality (as with the structure of Hogwarts, like you said) to absolute "Wartime," unavoidable danger and scary uncertainty. I think the best way to describe DH is as an episodic amalgam that serves the specific purpose of tying up loose ends, rather than telling the story. Which would encompass the 'foolish escapades' summation...

I was surprised by 'Ron betrays 2.0', and the ease with which the horcruxes were destroyed. It almost feels like the Dumbledore backstory was slapped on just to explain his withered hand, which not only made him look ridiculous (you put on the ring WTF?), but also ruined a perfect way to enhance the danger/fear association with the horcruxes. On the other hand - Grindelwald was cool, and the subtle reality that Dumbledore didn't actually kill him was even cooler.

Our only meaty glimpses of the Snape character in DH were through his memories, and (perhaps just because the memories were isolated, specific and direct) seemed an odd deviation from the prickly figure we've become accustomed to. I don't think we saw enough of Lily to care about her as the reason for Snape's eternal penitence, even if it was presaged in OotP; I wasn't expecting and was somewhat disappointed by the apparent lack of a strong relationship between Albus and Snape, which I would've really enjoyed even if it did take a back seat to the Snape/Lily plot...thinger. On top of that, Snape's sudden, anticlimactic death seemed a strange reward for one of the most complex, hardworking characters in the books. I personally expected something more along the lines of a strongly established triumvirate fed on hate, deception and evil between Harry, Snape and Voldemort, rather than the sudden insertion of the deathly hallows, but whatev. Fanfic has ruined me.

The battle scenes were pretty cool, once you got past the crackpot methods used to get the characters there. LOVED the fight between Remus and Harry, L-O-V-E-D it. That hurt me more than Remus' Peek-a-boo death did, to be honest. ahhh Remus isn't dead NOOO ahhh...

Also, how cool was it that Molly was the one to kill Bellatrix? Narcissa as the epitome of Slytherin battle strategy: also FTW. Nevile as the true Gryffindor, pulling the sword out of the hat and symbolically vanquishing the snake (and another LOL for the moment Griphook realizes he's lost the sword again!) was very cool, though it might have been cooler if we'd seen a little more development from the D.A.

WHY DIDN'T UMBRIDGE BITE IT?

Oh...I could go on and on. This has probably gone on long enough for now, though.

Date: 2007-07-26 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Not at all, I've loved reading it! And, oh, god, yes, if anyone was going to bite it, WHY NOT UMBRIDGE??

Date: 2007-07-22 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysette123.livejournal.com
I have been trying to remember when I first started seeing Dumbledore as not the "kindly father figure type," but Churchill. and I mean the one that scared the German High Command like no other because Churchill could coolly, calmly and without a second thought sacrifice ANYTHING in order to win. He proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt when he refuse to let a wire be sent out to the RMS Lusitania to warn her Captain that a U-Boat had been sitting outside Queenstown Harbor for a week or more. He figured that the U-Boat Captain had gotten antsy with waiting, and he wanted the Lusitania sunk to drive the US into W W I. The German Command had laws against firing on passenger ships, and only one torpedo was fired. Lucy had a bad bulkhead design, and it was known to the British Navy that ship would likely go down in 21 minutes, if she was hit. Lucy didn't disappoint.

My point is that Dumbledore would sacrifice anyone or anything to further along his plans, even himself. That was strange, though. Harry might have thought Dumbledore was a kindly old man, but Dumbledore was as Machiavellian as they come. He probably thought it was a gift from the Gods that Snape had the guilt about Lily's death hanging over his head, and every time he saw Harry, he saw Lily's accusing eyes looking back at him. Who would have pegged Dumbledore for a Team Angst Snarry Shipper? Did Dumbledore love either Harry or Snape in even the tiniest measure? Why? They were tools, nothing more. I wonder how many parents are not going to like that "Kindly" Dumbledore was merely a facade? Some men have the ambition to sit on the throne, others prefer to stand behind it.

Date: 2007-07-26 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Do you know that I JUST WENT TO THE CHURCHILL MUSEUM!! On the VERY DAY YOU POSTED THIS! :D

I do love your meta. Who would have pegged Dumbledore for a Team Angst Snarry Shipper? And I love your FUNNY!

Date: 2007-07-22 09:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] venivincere
-Dumbledore and Snape's true natures are revealed at last and their motives are utterly the opposite of what we'd been shown in books 1-5. Dumbledore was a power-seeking manipulator who was just managing to walk the line of "for the greater good," and Snape was emotion-filled, driven by sacrifice, caring about the needs of the one far more than Dumbledore ever had. How about that. Moreover, Harry discovered the truth, and learned whom he should forgive and whom he should love, and that they were also quite the opposite of what he expected.

Exactly. And this is why, in the Epilogue, we should have seen Harry having named his son Severus Albus, not the other way 'round. In addition to being more euphonius, it's the logical sequence.

;___;

Date: 2007-07-23 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coell.livejournal.com
May I second the "Severus Albus" complaint please? I was fine rolling eyes through the epilogue, but when I saw that kid named in the wrong order - I had to scream a few more four-letter words at JKR. :-)

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Date: 2007-07-23 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] berseker.livejournal.com
About fanfiction... Well. My first thoughts when Snape took over Hogwarts were "... and just plain wrong IS CANON!! O.O"

I have to admit that it was a little distracting.

Anyway, I also missed Hogwarts, but I think the battle made up for it. Except for the bit about the Slythering not joining the battle. Not even one. That pained me a little, because of all the house-ism going on in bad-fanfic and I didn´t want to see it in canon.

Aaand I was wrong about Rowlings. Yay for Snape. She actually knew what she was doing. Kind of. (I still think the whole Percy subplot was heavy-handed, but anyway).One day I write about how uber-awesome Snape was at this spy thing. And about how canon Snape/Lucius is The guy patted him in the back, so there. You can almost feel the lust.

But, in the middle of the book, I wasn´t thinking about Snape. I wasn´t thinking about Dumbledore. I wasn´t even thinking about the upcoming war. The only thing I was thinking was, I can take anything, but leave Kreacher alive. He´s totally the best thing about DH. And Regulus. Much love for Regulus. House-elfs revolution GO.

Date: 2007-07-23 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orchidchaos.livejournal.com
When Neville said that the students were trained to Crucio each other in class, all I could think was, "Are they forced to strip down naked and recieve whippings from Headmaster Snape as well?"

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Date: 2007-07-26 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Yeah, there's a lot to be disturbed about if you look at the whole Gryffindor-Slytherin lesson here. The only concession we get--and I do like it--is Harry saying that the bravest man he knew was a Slytherin. But I can see why it's too little too late for many.

Date: 2007-07-23 06:26 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] treewishes.livejournal.com
It was infinitely more satisfying to read it with you all than in isolation! *hugs*hugs*hugs* And thanks much for the meta, I'm only beginning to process. The flip of Albus and Severus is massive, and I'm now dying to read all the books from the beginning just to see it!

Date: 2007-07-26 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
*leaps on you in joy* Oh my GOD such an experience. I miss you guys so much already--you're going to be at Prophecy??

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Date: 2007-07-23 10:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aras-fixation.livejournal.com
(I've kept my "Whither fanfiction?" thoughts out of this post because the book deserves to be analysed without that baggage. But I'll present fanfiction thoughts later. Hell, I'll present fanfiction later. ^_^ )

*cough* Hogwarts ruled by Death Eaters *cough*

Date: 2007-07-24 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazy-neutrino.livejournal.com
Seconded! I mean, that's just plain wrong.

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Date: 2007-07-23 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] riibu.livejournal.com
Definitely. Harry casting Unforgivables isn't just right.

Date: 2007-07-26 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Just sits wrong with me. No matter the explanations I see.

Date: 2007-07-23 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sor-bet.livejournal.com
Hell, I'll present fanfiction later.

*heaves a huge sigh of relief*

Date: 2007-07-26 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
*leaps on you, gives you GIANT NOOGIES just because*

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