GoF and and the Spoiler Cut of Doom
Nov. 19th, 2005 09:48 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
How about those Opening Credits? Should have called the film "Harry Potter and the Oh My God You Are So Fucked This Time Around, Kid".
Thought it was, well, to use a word I use a lot, splendid. I can't quite yet say if I liked it better than PoA; I'll need to see it again to get past the "Did they do it right, did they, huh huh huh?" that accompanies a first viewing of a beloved book and just go back and watch.
For me the last film showed how good these films can get, how viscerally they can grab you with the storytelling and not just be a parade of, "Look, it's this beloved character! And that one! And this scene, look, look how we did this scene!" PoA went beyond that and engaged me with the slickness of the storytelling, which I hadn't expected. And I thought GoF measured up to that again. For those who didn't like it: yes, something either engages you emotionally or it doesn't, and there's nothing that can be done about that to make you change your mind. Though I will say that if you were looking for something more from the books to be in this film and that's why you didn't like it overall, goodness, I can't think what would have helped you.
I thought the cast uniformly excellent. I want to spend a bit of time talking about Radcliffe, because he has to carry the film and he's a fifteen-year-old actor and I hear mixed reviews about Dan Radcliffe; that he's great or that he's not so great. Here's my take: I think the directors behind these films believe the Harry Potter stories not only need you to sympathize with the protagonist but to be the protagonist. This makes Harry into a creature who cannot have reactions that are too huge or too quirky, for fear of causing the viewer to stray. That's awfully limiting for an actor. Harry never gets to mug, or be too goofy--even when he's trying to shield his nekkid boyparts from a naughty-minded girl ghost he has to keep the reactions reigned in. Do I think, for example, that Grint has a larger range of emotions on the screen? Hell, yes. Because he's allowed to. Harry's not.
I think because this is a visual medium the films are unapologetic about using Harry's looks to further this Blank Slate Harry. Radcliffe done up as Harry is not only incredibly pretty, he's one of the effing cherubim descended to earth. Angelic and effectively androgenous with it when the make-up artists are at their most intense with him: Harry is pale of complexion and flushed at cheek and lip--hair as black as ebony, c'mon, harmonize with me here, guys. You've got the essence of innocence in Harry, something the viewer can slide into and fit over themselves without those poky itchy personality quirks bothering them much. Which makes it all the more endearing to watch Harry trying to slip free of that and just be a Real Boy, as he goes all teen in this. That's the performance they've asked of Radcliffe. 'S a bit thankless, isn't it?
So the question becomes not so much is he a strong actor, but can he carry the film in the way it is meant to be carried. Yeah, I think he does. Radcliffe's called on to do "anxious" a lot in this film and he's excellent at it; I adored watching him on the verge of puking before and during every Tournament Task. But we still have that "sense of wonder and joy" Harry that made Harry so much the Dickensian orphan in the first two films, and when that does get used it's used great. Oh, Harry, you had me at "I love magic," you really did, in this film.
What did I miss from the books? While the film was going on, I missed nothing. I mean, that's awesome, isn't it? Yes, I would have liked to have had Snape's Dark Mark and just one cut back to Harry's face in the Courtroom scene when he hears about Snape's DE history (just one shot! That's all, Newell, c'mon!), but these were only afterthoughts. I didn't miss anything house elvish, or the actual World Cup game, or the Sphinx in the maze (bloody easy riddle that, anyway) or Barty Crouch Jr. getting the Dementor's kiss or Sirius in the cave--not while I was watching the film nor did I later wish any of those had ended up in the film. They'd have f***ed up the pacing.
And the pacing was great. Two-and-half hours and not a whit of numb-butt to be had. No slow bits at all, IMHO.
The film did manage to improve something from the book for me, and that was the Dragon Task. Action sequences in books don't usually do a lot for me; I skim them to find out the outcome. Suddenly the Dragon Task was cool. Woo.
The Second Task, on the other hand, has always been my favorite in the book, and, oh, the moment when we saw R/H/C/G held hostage underwater? CREEPY AS F**K. I loved how the visuals did away with any need for exposition or inner monologue regarding Harry's fears that the hostages would be lost if they weren't all retrieved. As IF he could have left any one of them. *shudders delightedly*
The twins, oh, the twins. Best developed secondary characters in the film. You know what I loved best about that? It sets them up for their moment in OotP when they leave Hogwarts in gorgeous defiance. I so hope that's done right next film.
Neville! Do you know what they did with Neville? They made me like Ginny more. Because if BillyElliot!Neville chose her to dance with all night, she must be okay. How about that.
Voldemort: I'm dying even imagining anyone besides Ralph Fiennes in that role, now. Voldemort was man, and monster, and SEXAY as all get-out for being both. Oh, my god. No CGI creature could ever have been as wonderful.
LUCIUS. OH. Just...that...little...bit. Gave us everything. Every bit of history, of character... Lucius/Cane/Harry's Sleeve = OT3. My eyes rolled back in my head and I didn't hear another word for three minutes. &hearts &hearts &hearts &hearts &hearts And the chemistry between Lucius and Voldemort was gorgeous; Wormtail can cut off his own hand for Voldemort's cause but it doesn't matter, Lucius is still Voldemort's #1 DE and no one's gonna forget it. Oh.
I loved how NOTHING WAS SPARKLY in the graveyard. The dark mark on Wormtail's arm didn't glow. The Morsmordre wasn't green and sparkly. Everything was just black on black. No pretty magic until we got to the PI.
I swore up and down that the Prefect's Bath scene would never end up in the film because it would be too giggle-worthy and just a bit racy for all those kid viewers to realize Harry's nekkid in that water. EXCUSE ME FOR BEING THE MOST NAÏVE ADULT IN THE WORLD; APPARENTLY I AM STILL LIVING IN THE LAST CENTURY. I write Harry Potter NC-17 smutfic and *I* was blushing, okay?
(Someone please get it over with right now and tell me that was a body double or major CGI touch-ups when Harry was just getting into the water in that scene. I know it's the most likely answer; break it to me now. Because my reaction to that physique was that it just emphasized the "angelic perfection and innocence" thing all over again--he was too beautiful to even drool at. Even if it was a body double that doesn't change the effect.)
I want to find someone who hasn't read the books but is seeing the films (and wasn't spoiled) to find out what they thought of the Crouch-as-Moody hints. I know there's, like, one such person max and I'm unlikely to get much of a sample size, but I'd like to know if they thought the twitch-tongue thing was a good hint or if it was too much. Personally I liked it because a good mystery should have hints that the audience could get, and I thought that Moody (Gleeson)'s bit of tongue-twitch wasn't too much and might give viewers just enough to say, "Was he baiting him about his son or something? Do they have more history beyond what we saw in that pensieve scene?" Or maybe it gave it away completely. I dunno; I need some viewers to ring in. Ask your "I don't read but I like movies" loved ones and let me know, willya?
The shot where Harry looks back toward Cedric struggling with the vines in the maze and they zoom in on Harry's eyes and that long awful moment of should-I-save-him-or-go-for-the-cup decision where viewer who knows what's coming thinks, "There. That's the moment when Harry kills Cedric, at least that's the way Harry will remember it. Oh."
Oh, the beauty/agony of Harry and Deadric portkeying back to the grounds of the Third Task and the spectators breaking into joyous ignorant applause, eee. Loved how it was Fleur's scream that broke it and not just some dawning hush over the crowd.
Okay. I used to say "AH-chee-oh" because it looked Italian but then Jim Dale said "AH-see-oh" so I changed and now Movie!Harry says "AH-kee-oh." I am a fangirl and therefore allowed to have a mini breakdown over such things, shut up.
When Barty Crouch was walking with Harry in the woods I couldn't help but MSTy, (Harry voice): "Sir, you're not nearly as pretty as Professor Lupin; could I have this nature walk with HIM again, please?"
Harry's handwriting IS the Lumos font! Didja see it, there on the letter to Sirius?
I was struck less by the 'shippiness in this than I was by the Trio-ness. The need for the Trio to be together no matter whom they're romantically entangled with. It would have been okay for Hermione to be with Krum if only Ron didn't make it all "fraternizing with the enemy" ugly--it wasn't that she wanted to be asked by Ron as much as she wanted her best friends to be okay with her and Krum.
Tell me, though, that I'm not the only one who saw this film as innuendo paradise, despite what I say about Angelic!Harry. It was like a dirty version of Clue: It was Rita with in the broom cupboard with Harry, it was Snape in the potions storeroom with Harry, it was Cedric in the Prefect's Bath with Harry. Every moment was just waiting for the bau-chick-a-bau-bau track.
Best Intentionally Fabulous Moment: Snape rolling up his sleeves prior to grabbing Harry and Ron's heads.
Best Spontaneously Fabulous Moment: Ron's aborted bird-flip towards the twins when they're joshing him when he goes to dance with McGonagall.
Most Evil Line Ever: "It's a broom cupboard." "Well, then you should feel right at home." Didja hear that "AH!" scream from the woman in the tenth row? Then you were in my theatre and that was me.
Moment Where I Choked Up: Dumbledore's "I always hated these drapes." It all just...came home to me. Cedric's death, everything.
Most perfect line: "Everything's going to change now, isn't it?" Oh, my god. That delivery, that "Oh, god, I don't want to cry and if I don't smile I will cry" rictus of bravery on Hermione's face--yeah. Whoever made the decision on that one, I kiss you.
I need to see it again and just perv. Eee, Lucius.
Last, I have a drabble for you.
*****
"I waited three hours."
Cedric looked up. "...Sorry?"
"I waited three hours. My fingers still haven't de-pruned," Harry said, holding up the offending digits and leaning in so close Cedric could smell the bacon on his breath. "And you never came."
Cedric felt himself flush down to his knees. "Harry, I--"
Then he realized that the flush wasn't all embarrassment.
"Um." Well. Yes, why not? "I'm really sorry. Got detained. Can I make it up to you tonight?"
As the pout on Harry's face changed to a slow smile, Cedric realized he wasn't sure he could wait until night.
*****
Thought it was, well, to use a word I use a lot, splendid. I can't quite yet say if I liked it better than PoA; I'll need to see it again to get past the "Did they do it right, did they, huh huh huh?" that accompanies a first viewing of a beloved book and just go back and watch.
For me the last film showed how good these films can get, how viscerally they can grab you with the storytelling and not just be a parade of, "Look, it's this beloved character! And that one! And this scene, look, look how we did this scene!" PoA went beyond that and engaged me with the slickness of the storytelling, which I hadn't expected. And I thought GoF measured up to that again. For those who didn't like it: yes, something either engages you emotionally or it doesn't, and there's nothing that can be done about that to make you change your mind. Though I will say that if you were looking for something more from the books to be in this film and that's why you didn't like it overall, goodness, I can't think what would have helped you.
I thought the cast uniformly excellent. I want to spend a bit of time talking about Radcliffe, because he has to carry the film and he's a fifteen-year-old actor and I hear mixed reviews about Dan Radcliffe; that he's great or that he's not so great. Here's my take: I think the directors behind these films believe the Harry Potter stories not only need you to sympathize with the protagonist but to be the protagonist. This makes Harry into a creature who cannot have reactions that are too huge or too quirky, for fear of causing the viewer to stray. That's awfully limiting for an actor. Harry never gets to mug, or be too goofy--even when he's trying to shield his nekkid boyparts from a naughty-minded girl ghost he has to keep the reactions reigned in. Do I think, for example, that Grint has a larger range of emotions on the screen? Hell, yes. Because he's allowed to. Harry's not.
I think because this is a visual medium the films are unapologetic about using Harry's looks to further this Blank Slate Harry. Radcliffe done up as Harry is not only incredibly pretty, he's one of the effing cherubim descended to earth. Angelic and effectively androgenous with it when the make-up artists are at their most intense with him: Harry is pale of complexion and flushed at cheek and lip--hair as black as ebony, c'mon, harmonize with me here, guys. You've got the essence of innocence in Harry, something the viewer can slide into and fit over themselves without those poky itchy personality quirks bothering them much. Which makes it all the more endearing to watch Harry trying to slip free of that and just be a Real Boy, as he goes all teen in this. That's the performance they've asked of Radcliffe. 'S a bit thankless, isn't it?
So the question becomes not so much is he a strong actor, but can he carry the film in the way it is meant to be carried. Yeah, I think he does. Radcliffe's called on to do "anxious" a lot in this film and he's excellent at it; I adored watching him on the verge of puking before and during every Tournament Task. But we still have that "sense of wonder and joy" Harry that made Harry so much the Dickensian orphan in the first two films, and when that does get used it's used great. Oh, Harry, you had me at "I love magic," you really did, in this film.
What did I miss from the books? While the film was going on, I missed nothing. I mean, that's awesome, isn't it? Yes, I would have liked to have had Snape's Dark Mark and just one cut back to Harry's face in the Courtroom scene when he hears about Snape's DE history (just one shot! That's all, Newell, c'mon!), but these were only afterthoughts. I didn't miss anything house elvish, or the actual World Cup game, or the Sphinx in the maze (bloody easy riddle that, anyway) or Barty Crouch Jr. getting the Dementor's kiss or Sirius in the cave--not while I was watching the film nor did I later wish any of those had ended up in the film. They'd have f***ed up the pacing.
And the pacing was great. Two-and-half hours and not a whit of numb-butt to be had. No slow bits at all, IMHO.
The film did manage to improve something from the book for me, and that was the Dragon Task. Action sequences in books don't usually do a lot for me; I skim them to find out the outcome. Suddenly the Dragon Task was cool. Woo.
The Second Task, on the other hand, has always been my favorite in the book, and, oh, the moment when we saw R/H/C/G held hostage underwater? CREEPY AS F**K. I loved how the visuals did away with any need for exposition or inner monologue regarding Harry's fears that the hostages would be lost if they weren't all retrieved. As IF he could have left any one of them. *shudders delightedly*
The twins, oh, the twins. Best developed secondary characters in the film. You know what I loved best about that? It sets them up for their moment in OotP when they leave Hogwarts in gorgeous defiance. I so hope that's done right next film.
Neville! Do you know what they did with Neville? They made me like Ginny more. Because if BillyElliot!Neville chose her to dance with all night, she must be okay. How about that.
Voldemort: I'm dying even imagining anyone besides Ralph Fiennes in that role, now. Voldemort was man, and monster, and SEXAY as all get-out for being both. Oh, my god. No CGI creature could ever have been as wonderful.
LUCIUS. OH. Just...that...little...bit. Gave us everything. Every bit of history, of character... Lucius/Cane/Harry's Sleeve = OT3. My eyes rolled back in my head and I didn't hear another word for three minutes. &hearts &hearts &hearts &hearts &hearts And the chemistry between Lucius and Voldemort was gorgeous; Wormtail can cut off his own hand for Voldemort's cause but it doesn't matter, Lucius is still Voldemort's #1 DE and no one's gonna forget it. Oh.
I loved how NOTHING WAS SPARKLY in the graveyard. The dark mark on Wormtail's arm didn't glow. The Morsmordre wasn't green and sparkly. Everything was just black on black. No pretty magic until we got to the PI.
I swore up and down that the Prefect's Bath scene would never end up in the film because it would be too giggle-worthy and just a bit racy for all those kid viewers to realize Harry's nekkid in that water. EXCUSE ME FOR BEING THE MOST NAÏVE ADULT IN THE WORLD; APPARENTLY I AM STILL LIVING IN THE LAST CENTURY. I write Harry Potter NC-17 smutfic and *I* was blushing, okay?
(Someone please get it over with right now and tell me that was a body double or major CGI touch-ups when Harry was just getting into the water in that scene. I know it's the most likely answer; break it to me now. Because my reaction to that physique was that it just emphasized the "angelic perfection and innocence" thing all over again--he was too beautiful to even drool at. Even if it was a body double that doesn't change the effect.)
I want to find someone who hasn't read the books but is seeing the films (and wasn't spoiled) to find out what they thought of the Crouch-as-Moody hints. I know there's, like, one such person max and I'm unlikely to get much of a sample size, but I'd like to know if they thought the twitch-tongue thing was a good hint or if it was too much. Personally I liked it because a good mystery should have hints that the audience could get, and I thought that Moody (Gleeson)'s bit of tongue-twitch wasn't too much and might give viewers just enough to say, "Was he baiting him about his son or something? Do they have more history beyond what we saw in that pensieve scene?" Or maybe it gave it away completely. I dunno; I need some viewers to ring in. Ask your "I don't read but I like movies" loved ones and let me know, willya?
The shot where Harry looks back toward Cedric struggling with the vines in the maze and they zoom in on Harry's eyes and that long awful moment of should-I-save-him-or-go-for-the-cup decision where viewer who knows what's coming thinks, "There. That's the moment when Harry kills Cedric, at least that's the way Harry will remember it. Oh."
Oh, the beauty/agony of Harry and Deadric portkeying back to the grounds of the Third Task and the spectators breaking into joyous ignorant applause, eee. Loved how it was Fleur's scream that broke it and not just some dawning hush over the crowd.
Okay. I used to say "AH-chee-oh" because it looked Italian but then Jim Dale said "AH-see-oh" so I changed and now Movie!Harry says "AH-kee-oh." I am a fangirl and therefore allowed to have a mini breakdown over such things, shut up.
When Barty Crouch was walking with Harry in the woods I couldn't help but MSTy, (Harry voice): "Sir, you're not nearly as pretty as Professor Lupin; could I have this nature walk with HIM again, please?"
Harry's handwriting IS the Lumos font! Didja see it, there on the letter to Sirius?
I was struck less by the 'shippiness in this than I was by the Trio-ness. The need for the Trio to be together no matter whom they're romantically entangled with. It would have been okay for Hermione to be with Krum if only Ron didn't make it all "fraternizing with the enemy" ugly--it wasn't that she wanted to be asked by Ron as much as she wanted her best friends to be okay with her and Krum.
Tell me, though, that I'm not the only one who saw this film as innuendo paradise, despite what I say about Angelic!Harry. It was like a dirty version of Clue: It was Rita with in the broom cupboard with Harry, it was Snape in the potions storeroom with Harry, it was Cedric in the Prefect's Bath with Harry. Every moment was just waiting for the bau-chick-a-bau-bau track.
Best Intentionally Fabulous Moment: Snape rolling up his sleeves prior to grabbing Harry and Ron's heads.
Best Spontaneously Fabulous Moment: Ron's aborted bird-flip towards the twins when they're joshing him when he goes to dance with McGonagall.
Most Evil Line Ever: "It's a broom cupboard." "Well, then you should feel right at home." Didja hear that "AH!" scream from the woman in the tenth row? Then you were in my theatre and that was me.
Moment Where I Choked Up: Dumbledore's "I always hated these drapes." It all just...came home to me. Cedric's death, everything.
Most perfect line: "Everything's going to change now, isn't it?" Oh, my god. That delivery, that "Oh, god, I don't want to cry and if I don't smile I will cry" rictus of bravery on Hermione's face--yeah. Whoever made the decision on that one, I kiss you.
I need to see it again and just perv. Eee, Lucius.
Last, I have a drabble for you.
*****
"I waited three hours."
Cedric looked up. "...Sorry?"
"I waited three hours. My fingers still haven't de-pruned," Harry said, holding up the offending digits and leaning in so close Cedric could smell the bacon on his breath. "And you never came."
Cedric felt himself flush down to his knees. "Harry, I--"
Then he realized that the flush wasn't all embarrassment.
"Um." Well. Yes, why not? "I'm really sorry. Got detained. Can I make it up to you tonight?"
As the pout on Harry's face changed to a slow smile, Cedric realized he wasn't sure he could wait until night.
*****
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Date: 2005-11-19 03:07 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2005-11-19 03:09 pm (UTC)As far as I know it's really him - I seem to remember an interview or clip where he talks about how uncomfortable/anxious he was about doing that scene. ;)
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Date: 2005-11-19 03:16 pm (UTC)I also think Bonnie Wright is adorable so my view of movie!Ginny is a lot different than book!Ginny. I'm holding out hope when they get to the H/G parts of HBP that their romance will be easier to swallow.
Neville sneaking back into the dorm was my favorite part of the film. I was grinning from ear to ear.
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Date: 2005-11-19 03:30 pm (UTC)She did come out of it going "okay, who killed Barty Sr?" which definitely wasn't explained - I think we were left to assume that Barty Jr did it with revenge as the motive or possibly because after that scene where they interacted, he was afraid Barty Sr was suspicious. Whereas in the book, IIRC, we know he did it because of the whole subplot about having put his father under Imperius and having to keep control of him. But that was relatively minor.
Also, since they didn't give that backstory, she did ask me, "okay, so when did Barty Jr take over Moody?" because she thought that the scene where Moody teaches them about the curse was really him, and that Barty took over after that. Which I can see, even though they do have the foreshadowing of him drinking fromt he flask in the great hall scene.
Re: Dan's acting, I think you have a good point, and one that I hadn't considered. I do find him to be almost TOO angelic and innocent and large-eyed, but given that the theoretical target audience of the films is young teens, I can see why they chose to go that direction.
And yes, Harry/everyone! And McGonagall saying "he's a boy, not a piece of meat!" My row of slashers were the only ones in the theater that laughed hysterically at that line.
And when Rita says the bit about the cupboard, the whole audience made that sort of low "oooooooh she did NOT say that" moaning noise, like we were all thinking "uh oh, and now Harry's gonna have to kick your ass, Rita."
And yes, Snape and the sleeves moment - classic!
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Date: 2005-11-19 03:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2005-11-19 03:31 pm (UTC)Sigh. Too true. But he's only what? 15/16? I'll be happy when I can lust over his body legitimately. Till then, I shall have to amuse myself with the twins. And the boys from Durmstrang.
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Date: 2005-11-19 03:39 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2005-11-19 03:32 pm (UTC)And yes -- Harry/Cedric!! I waited three hours Hee! And ... Harry/Everybody! This movie made me so happy!
Going to see it again this afternoon!!
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Date: 2005-11-19 03:43 pm (UTC)Did anyone else notice that Avada Kedavra seemed different each time it was cast? The time in DADA class was the best to me, like a vacuum where life once was. The others seemed to have different sound effects and different lengths.
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Date: 2005-11-19 03:57 pm (UTC)The bath scene was unexpected for me too. I kept thinking: "How are parents going to explain that to their kids afterwards?" Although I couldn't help but think that maybe part of my uncomfort came from me being a slasher. Harry Potter with a girl? Even for a ghost, that's an awkward moment for me ;D
Ooh, beautiful Cedric/Harry dialogue. With the backing of the movie, it's almost canon ;)
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Date: 2005-11-19 03:58 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2005-11-19 04:00 pm (UTC)It didn't seem like a long movie AT ALL, but I do think that the Dragon scene was a tad too long, especially given that they cut other things out of the movie (presummabley for time constraints). I really missed the Veritaserum scene, though. That is when everything could have been explained and wasn't. But I definitely think they did an excellent job with this one.
Oh, and yes - Harry/everyone. As Cedric was walking away from Harry after telling him about the egg, I had to add a "and I'll be waiting for you, Potter", because it just felt so right.
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Date: 2005-11-19 04:03 pm (UTC)Hm, the veritaserum--yeah, wonder how that would have been. I still didn't miss it, though; I felt we'd got enough from Moody/Crouch's speech just before.
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Date: 2005-11-19 04:21 pm (UTC)So agree. 100%, I swear. God, you're eloquent.
*snogs and runs away*
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Date: 2005-11-19 04:44 pm (UTC)Great review.
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Date: 2005-11-19 04:57 pm (UTC)Oh, the beauty/agony of Harry and Deadric portkeying back to the grounds of the Third Task and the spectators breaking into joyous ignorant applause, eee. Loved how it was Fleur's scream that broke it and not just some dawning hush over the crowd.
Oh, god yes.
"It's a broom cupboard." "Well, then you should feel right at home." Didja hear that "AH!" scream from the woman in the tenth row? Then you were in my theatre and that was me.
Haha! When I went it was like, the entire theatre, and someone up top yelled "Oh no, you di-in't!"
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Date: 2005-11-19 04:58 pm (UTC)Bwah hah hah! Too true! *squees*
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Date: 2005-11-19 05:02 pm (UTC)I still haven't seen the movie- the kid and I are waiting for Monday night at 9:30 to weed out potential toddlers- but if I was wiggling impatiently before, now I'm skipping around in frenetic circles.
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Date: 2005-11-19 07:54 pm (UTC)Let me/us know what you thought. I can't wait for your reaction! &hearts
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Date: 2005-11-19 05:03 pm (UTC)And, eeeeee, Cedric. XD And omg, the bath. It seriously disturbed my mum. The fact that the actress who plays Myrtle is in her THIRTIES does not help at all, even if she is forever twelve looking. But, gawd, the pervy fangirlness.
And I'm surprised you didn't mention the ferret down the pants moment. XD; *still caught up on that one*
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Date: 2005-11-19 07:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2005-11-19 05:09 pm (UTC)Snape rolling up his sleeves was hilarious!
Lucius was so, so perfect... He was so much more Malfoy than in the second film... *_*
Ha! Harry in the closet... I completely cracked up at that... (My son was staring at me oddly *g*)
And thanks for the drabble... How could one not think OMG!!! CD/HP!!! in this film? ^_~
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Date: 2005-11-19 08:02 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2005-11-19 05:35 pm (UTC)& Dead Cedric/Harry Potter are my true OTP.
Seriously, Cedric was very gay throughout the whole movie.
I love Snape as well :">!!!1
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Date: 2005-11-19 08:04 pm (UTC)And you're right, it does get better with another viewing. Man, what if there were outtakes out there of Myrtle saying, "So...did you bring protection, Harry?"
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Date: 2005-11-19 05:50 pm (UTC)Other than that, yeah. I agree. Especially about the pacing. It was just seamless.
And Neville. Eeeeee.
(Yes. If they cheat us out of the fantasticness of the twins' departure next movie, I will hurt someone.)
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Date: 2005-11-19 06:03 pm (UTC)You've got the essence of innocence in Harry, something the viewer can slide into and fit over themselves without those poky itchy personality quirks bothering them much.
Yes. Yes! And that's a bit why early Harry (book and film) is such a cipher for people -- they call him boring and genderless, but it's almost necessary in getting drawn into the world of magic. If he's not an Everyman, it doesn't work. But once we know him, he gets to grow, and some people are thrilled by that (*cough*me*cough*), and others aren't (think of all the criticism of Harry's characterization GoF, OotP, and HBP). I loved his growth in the book, and getting to see it on screen in drips and drabs in both PoA and GoF has been fantastic. Dan probably deserves more credit than he's given.
Oh, Harry, you had me at "I love magic," you really did, in this film.
Me too. If I hadn't been in a crowded theater with the boy and lots of strangers, I would have squealed here, definitely.
It sets them up for their moment in OotP when they leave Hogwarts in gorgeous defiance.
Yep. When they were defying things half-assedly and wrestling on the floor, I thought, "Oh, this sets up the flying off on their brooms in OotP beautifully!" I think they'll leave that in, too, because the twins give good screen.
Because if BillyElliot!Neville chose her to dance with all night, she must be okay. How about that.
Ahahaha. But yes, same here. Also, I know Ginny and Harry will end up together, but it sets up stud!Neville well, too. He's so the quiet one who gets all the girls, even if no one seems to realize it.
I write Harry Potter NC-17 smutfic and *I* was blushing, okay?
I SAID THE SAME THING. Seriously, wtf, I know I blush easily, but blushing at a canon scene in Harry Potter? You'd think with the stuff we write, we'd be immune to this, but damn!
As far as I know, Dan did all his own body work for that scene. :)
"There. That's the moment when Harry kills Cedric, at least that's the way Harry will remember it. Oh."
Yes. YES. I went, OMGJUSTBESELFISHANDLEAVEHIM! even though it's frickin' Harry Potter and you know he just can't. *SIGH*
"It's a broom cupboard." "Well, then you should feel right at home."
You weren't in my theater. :\ I was the ONLY ONE in my showing who gasped at that. I felt so...canonically alone. Hee.
AND THE DRABBLE, YES. Oh, like icing on a fabulous Amy cake. *gobbles*
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Date: 2005-11-19 08:20 pm (UTC)And I had not so much a noisy theatre or a crowded one the first time as much as an unabashed one. There were giggles and yells and cheers from random places (including the person I was with). Good times.
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Date: 2005-11-19 06:55 pm (UTC)Especially the OMG Innuendo Everywhere part. My best friend and I spent the entire movie whispering things like 'Harry! Push Rita out of the closet and scream 'Bad Touch! Bad Touch!' or 'OMG, he's coming on to me, isn't he? He *is*! ...what? Cedric, that would honestly have been less confusing if you'd just out-and-out propositioned me, please and thank you...' and MYRTLE! OMG MYRTLE! MARRY ME~~!
*.* at drabble. Wow. Harry and Cedric--my Tragic OTP.
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Date: 2005-11-19 08:26 pm (UTC)--OMG that so needs to be an icon! *dies laughing*
I LOVE the tragic OTP of Harry/Cedric, I do. I hope there's more fic about them after this!
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Date: 2005-11-19 07:22 pm (UTC)I saw that shot, gasped and hissed, "It's Harry's Frodo moment!" Seriously, watch it again. He stole that eye slide from Elijah Wood. Elijah should sue!
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Date: 2005-11-19 08:36 pm (UTC)Haha I remember seeing that and thinking, "Omg, it's like I'm watching an
Most Evil Line Ever: "It's a broom cupboard." "Well, then you should feel right at home." Didja hear that "AH!" scream from the woman in the tenth row? Then you were in my theatre and that was me.
That was everyone in my theater. Bitch didn't even get told by the end of the movie. Hopefully she does in the next movie.
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