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How about those Opening Credits? Should have called the film "Harry Potter and the Oh My God You Are So Fucked This Time Around, Kid".



Thought it was, well, to use a word I use a lot, splendid. I can't quite yet say if I liked it better than PoA; I'll need to see it again to get past the "Did they do it right, did they, huh huh huh?" that accompanies a first viewing of a beloved book and just go back and watch.

For me the last film showed how good these films can get, how viscerally they can grab you with the storytelling and not just be a parade of, "Look, it's this beloved character! And that one! And this scene, look, look how we did this scene!" PoA went beyond that and engaged me with the slickness of the storytelling, which I hadn't expected. And I thought GoF measured up to that again. For those who didn't like it: yes, something either engages you emotionally or it doesn't, and there's nothing that can be done about that to make you change your mind. Though I will say that if you were looking for something more from the books to be in this film and that's why you didn't like it overall, goodness, I can't think what would have helped you.

I thought the cast uniformly excellent. I want to spend a bit of time talking about Radcliffe, because he has to carry the film and he's a fifteen-year-old actor and I hear mixed reviews about Dan Radcliffe; that he's great or that he's not so great. Here's my take: I think the directors behind these films believe the Harry Potter stories not only need you to sympathize with the protagonist but to be the protagonist. This makes Harry into a creature who cannot have reactions that are too huge or too quirky, for fear of causing the viewer to stray. That's awfully limiting for an actor. Harry never gets to mug, or be too goofy--even when he's trying to shield his nekkid boyparts from a naughty-minded girl ghost he has to keep the reactions reigned in. Do I think, for example, that Grint has a larger range of emotions on the screen? Hell, yes. Because he's allowed to. Harry's not.

I think because this is a visual medium the films are unapologetic about using Harry's looks to further this Blank Slate Harry. Radcliffe done up as Harry is not only incredibly pretty, he's one of the effing cherubim descended to earth. Angelic and effectively androgenous with it when the make-up artists are at their most intense with him: Harry is pale of complexion and flushed at cheek and lip--hair as black as ebony, c'mon, harmonize with me here, guys. You've got the essence of innocence in Harry, something the viewer can slide into and fit over themselves without those poky itchy personality quirks bothering them much. Which makes it all the more endearing to watch Harry trying to slip free of that and just be a Real Boy, as he goes all teen in this. That's the performance they've asked of Radcliffe. 'S a bit thankless, isn't it?

So the question becomes not so much is he a strong actor, but can he carry the film in the way it is meant to be carried. Yeah, I think he does. Radcliffe's called on to do "anxious" a lot in this film and he's excellent at it; I adored watching him on the verge of puking before and during every Tournament Task. But we still have that "sense of wonder and joy" Harry that made Harry so much the Dickensian orphan in the first two films, and when that does get used it's used great. Oh, Harry, you had me at "I love magic," you really did, in this film.

What did I miss from the books? While the film was going on, I missed nothing. I mean, that's awesome, isn't it? Yes, I would have liked to have had Snape's Dark Mark and just one cut back to Harry's face in the Courtroom scene when he hears about Snape's DE history (just one shot! That's all, Newell, c'mon!), but these were only afterthoughts. I didn't miss anything house elvish, or the actual World Cup game, or the Sphinx in the maze (bloody easy riddle that, anyway) or Barty Crouch Jr. getting the Dementor's kiss or Sirius in the cave--not while I was watching the film nor did I later wish any of those had ended up in the film. They'd have f***ed up the pacing.

And the pacing was great. Two-and-half hours and not a whit of numb-butt to be had. No slow bits at all, IMHO.

The film did manage to improve something from the book for me, and that was the Dragon Task. Action sequences in books don't usually do a lot for me; I skim them to find out the outcome. Suddenly the Dragon Task was cool. Woo.

The Second Task, on the other hand, has always been my favorite in the book, and, oh, the moment when we saw R/H/C/G held hostage underwater? CREEPY AS F**K. I loved how the visuals did away with any need for exposition or inner monologue regarding Harry's fears that the hostages would be lost if they weren't all retrieved. As IF he could have left any one of them. *shudders delightedly*

The twins, oh, the twins. Best developed secondary characters in the film. You know what I loved best about that? It sets them up for their moment in OotP when they leave Hogwarts in gorgeous defiance. I so hope that's done right next film.

Neville! Do you know what they did with Neville? They made me like Ginny more. Because if BillyElliot!Neville chose her to dance with all night, she must be okay. How about that.

Voldemort: I'm dying even imagining anyone besides Ralph Fiennes in that role, now. Voldemort was man, and monster, and SEXAY as all get-out for being both. Oh, my god. No CGI creature could ever have been as wonderful.

LUCIUS. OH. Just...that...little...bit. Gave us everything. Every bit of history, of character... Lucius/Cane/Harry's Sleeve = OT3. My eyes rolled back in my head and I didn't hear another word for three minutes. &hearts &hearts &hearts &hearts &hearts And the chemistry between Lucius and Voldemort was gorgeous; Wormtail can cut off his own hand for Voldemort's cause but it doesn't matter, Lucius is still Voldemort's #1 DE and no one's gonna forget it. Oh.

I loved how NOTHING WAS SPARKLY in the graveyard. The dark mark on Wormtail's arm didn't glow. The Morsmordre wasn't green and sparkly. Everything was just black on black. No pretty magic until we got to the PI.

I swore up and down that the Prefect's Bath scene would never end up in the film because it would be too giggle-worthy and just a bit racy for all those kid viewers to realize Harry's nekkid in that water. EXCUSE ME FOR BEING THE MOST NAÏVE ADULT IN THE WORLD; APPARENTLY I AM STILL LIVING IN THE LAST CENTURY. I write Harry Potter NC-17 smutfic and *I* was blushing, okay?

(Someone please get it over with right now and tell me that was a body double or major CGI touch-ups when Harry was just getting into the water in that scene. I know it's the most likely answer; break it to me now. Because my reaction to that physique was that it just emphasized the "angelic perfection and innocence" thing all over again--he was too beautiful to even drool at. Even if it was a body double that doesn't change the effect.)

I want to find someone who hasn't read the books but is seeing the films (and wasn't spoiled) to find out what they thought of the Crouch-as-Moody hints. I know there's, like, one such person max and I'm unlikely to get much of a sample size, but I'd like to know if they thought the twitch-tongue thing was a good hint or if it was too much. Personally I liked it because a good mystery should have hints that the audience could get, and I thought that Moody (Gleeson)'s bit of tongue-twitch wasn't too much and might give viewers just enough to say, "Was he baiting him about his son or something? Do they have more history beyond what we saw in that pensieve scene?" Or maybe it gave it away completely. I dunno; I need some viewers to ring in. Ask your "I don't read but I like movies" loved ones and let me know, willya?

The shot where Harry looks back toward Cedric struggling with the vines in the maze and they zoom in on Harry's eyes and that long awful moment of should-I-save-him-or-go-for-the-cup decision where viewer who knows what's coming thinks, "There. That's the moment when Harry kills Cedric, at least that's the way Harry will remember it. Oh."

Oh, the beauty/agony of Harry and Deadric portkeying back to the grounds of the Third Task and the spectators breaking into joyous ignorant applause, eee. Loved how it was Fleur's scream that broke it and not just some dawning hush over the crowd.

Okay. I used to say "AH-chee-oh" because it looked Italian but then Jim Dale said "AH-see-oh" so I changed and now Movie!Harry says "AH-kee-oh." I am a fangirl and therefore allowed to have a mini breakdown over such things, shut up.

When Barty Crouch was walking with Harry in the woods I couldn't help but MSTy, (Harry voice): "Sir, you're not nearly as pretty as Professor Lupin; could I have this nature walk with HIM again, please?"

Harry's handwriting IS the Lumos font! Didja see it, there on the letter to Sirius?

I was struck less by the 'shippiness in this than I was by the Trio-ness. The need for the Trio to be together no matter whom they're romantically entangled with. It would have been okay for Hermione to be with Krum if only Ron didn't make it all "fraternizing with the enemy" ugly--it wasn't that she wanted to be asked by Ron as much as she wanted her best friends to be okay with her and Krum.

Tell me, though, that I'm not the only one who saw this film as innuendo paradise, despite what I say about Angelic!Harry. It was like a dirty version of Clue: It was Rita with in the broom cupboard with Harry, it was Snape in the potions storeroom with Harry, it was Cedric in the Prefect's Bath with Harry. Every moment was just waiting for the bau-chick-a-bau-bau track.

Best Intentionally Fabulous Moment: Snape rolling up his sleeves prior to grabbing Harry and Ron's heads.
Best Spontaneously Fabulous Moment: Ron's aborted bird-flip towards the twins when they're joshing him when he goes to dance with McGonagall.
Most Evil Line Ever: "It's a broom cupboard." "Well, then you should feel right at home." Didja hear that "AH!" scream from the woman in the tenth row? Then you were in my theatre and that was me.
Moment Where I Choked Up: Dumbledore's "I always hated these drapes." It all just...came home to me. Cedric's death, everything.
Most perfect line: "Everything's going to change now, isn't it?" Oh, my god. That delivery, that "Oh, god, I don't want to cry and if I don't smile I will cry" rictus of bravery on Hermione's face--yeah. Whoever made the decision on that one, I kiss you.

I need to see it again and just perv. Eee, Lucius.

Last, I have a drabble for you.

*****
"I waited three hours."

Cedric looked up. "...Sorry?"

"I waited three hours. My fingers still haven't de-pruned," Harry said, holding up the offending digits and leaning in so close Cedric could smell the bacon on his breath. "And you never came."

Cedric felt himself flush down to his knees. "Harry, I--"

Then he realized that the flush wasn't all embarrassment.

"Um." Well. Yes, why not? "I'm really sorry. Got detained. Can I make it up to you tonight?"

As the pout on Harry's face changed to a slow smile, Cedric realized he wasn't sure he could wait until night.

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Date: 2005-11-19 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catrinella.livejournal.com
The Weasley kids ruled this movie. I can't believe it, but I like Ginny again! And Twins! Hagrid, however, is a dirty Charlie-teaser since we never got to see him.

Date: 2005-11-19 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I wonder if we'll see Bill at all in these? I can imagine them chucking the Bill/Fleur subplot right outta there.

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Date: 2005-11-19 03:09 pm (UTC)
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tell me that was a body double or major CGI touch-ups when Harry was just getting into the water in that scene.

As far as I know it's really him - I seem to remember an interview or clip where he talks about how uncomfortable/anxious he was about doing that scene. ;)

Date: 2005-11-19 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I expect he really was undressed for it; I'm still wondering if they didn't use a body double for the opening shot. I'd like to think it was him--whoa, Dan, you got gorgeous!--but I don't want to get disappointed if it's not.

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Date: 2005-11-19 03:16 pm (UTC)
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They made me like Ginny more. Because if BillyElliot!Neville chose her to dance with all night, she must be okay. How about that.

I also think Bonnie Wright is adorable so my view of movie!Ginny is a lot different than book!Ginny. I'm holding out hope when they get to the H/G parts of HBP that their romance will be easier to swallow.

Neville sneaking back into the dorm was my favorite part of the film. I was grinning from ear to ear.

Date: 2005-11-19 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I think the movies really might make me accept the Harry/Ginny when it comes around. 'Course, I said that about the books too. But I see it working in a different way that the books couldn't!

Date: 2005-11-19 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tarie.livejournal.com
I read an interview with Dan - that's him. He was talking about wearing flesh-coloured underwear in the interview. :))

Date: 2005-11-19 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Did he actually say he got buff for the film? 'Cos, MAN. *is afraid to believe*

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Date: 2005-11-19 03:30 pm (UTC)
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I have an accomplice who has not read the books (though she has been given a detailed synopsis of them a long time ago) and she seems to think they did a pretty good job with the Crouch/Moody hints. She says, "I think if I didn't have a vague memory of you telling me about this plot, I would never have suspected Moody until the reveal. But I do think it was consistent so that once you know he's Barty Jr, you can look back over the movie and go 'ohhhhh!' and feel like it made sense."

She did come out of it going "okay, who killed Barty Sr?" which definitely wasn't explained - I think we were left to assume that Barty Jr did it with revenge as the motive or possibly because after that scene where they interacted, he was afraid Barty Sr was suspicious. Whereas in the book, IIRC, we know he did it because of the whole subplot about having put his father under Imperius and having to keep control of him. But that was relatively minor.

Also, since they didn't give that backstory, she did ask me, "okay, so when did Barty Jr take over Moody?" because she thought that the scene where Moody teaches them about the curse was really him, and that Barty took over after that. Which I can see, even though they do have the foreshadowing of him drinking fromt he flask in the great hall scene.

Re: Dan's acting, I think you have a good point, and one that I hadn't considered. I do find him to be almost TOO angelic and innocent and large-eyed, but given that the theoretical target audience of the films is young teens, I can see why they chose to go that direction.

And yes, Harry/everyone! And McGonagall saying "he's a boy, not a piece of meat!" My row of slashers were the only ones in the theater that laughed hysterically at that line.

And when Rita says the bit about the cupboard, the whole audience made that sort of low "oooooooh she did NOT say that" moaning noise, like we were all thinking "uh oh, and now Harry's gonna have to kick your ass, Rita."

And yes, Snape and the sleeves moment - classic!

Date: 2005-11-19 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Ooh, thank you so much for sharing this stuff, especially about your accomplice! she thought that the scene where Moody teaches them about the curse was really him--Yes, it makes sense that way too, doesn't it, except for the flask. Part of that is because we really, really LIKE Moody in GoF, don't we? We feel awful that that character's been rotten all along, want to find some place where it might have been the guy we liked after all.

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Date: 2005-11-19 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] josanpq.livejournal.com
Because my reaction to that physique was that it just emphasized the "angelic perfection and innocence" thing all over again--he was too beautiful to even drool at.

Sigh. Too true. But he's only what? 15/16? I'll be happy when I can lust over his body legitimately. Till then, I shall have to amuse myself with the twins. And the boys from Durmstrang.

Date: 2005-11-19 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Heh, he's legal over here! But it's that reader/viewer-for-physical-manifestation-of-character-not-going-to-do-anything-about-it-for-REAL honorable lust, for me, so, I don't feel at all bad about it.

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Date: 2005-11-19 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smaragdgrun.livejournal.com
Oh, what a great review!!! Everything you said.

And yes -- Harry/Cedric!! I waited three hours Hee! And ... Harry/Everybody! This movie made me so happy!

Going to see it again this afternoon!!

Date: 2005-11-19 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I am too! I just bought my ticket online and am heading out soon! ^_^

Date: 2005-11-19 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wernotalone.livejournal.com
All I could think was to thank Curion for teaching the kids to examine their characters and Newell for continuing it. They're finally *gasp* acting. This movie was terrifing. The kids in the audience between 4 and 7 should have nightmares. I might have nightmares. That scene at the Quiddich Cup? I was ready to cry; the paincy disorder gets me everytime. And Barty Jr. (took me FOREVER to figure out who he was) standing all serial killer like in the middle of those tents?

Did anyone else notice that Avada Kedavra seemed different each time it was cast? The time in DADA class was the best to me, like a vacuum where life once was. The others seemed to have different sound effects and different lengths.

Date: 2005-11-19 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Yeah, I agree, it's likely Cuaron got those kids to where they were and Newell kept on with it. Which doesn't make me disparage Columbus; he was making a different flavor of film and was working with younger kids, which still came out just fine IMHO.

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Date: 2005-11-19 03:57 pm (UTC)
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That's so true about movie!Harry being the viewer's step-in protagonist. I wonder how they're going to show the OotP Harry that's both perpetually angry and angelic.

The bath scene was unexpected for me too. I kept thinking: "How are parents going to explain that to their kids afterwards?" Although I couldn't help but think that maybe part of my uncomfort came from me being a slasher. Harry Potter with a girl? Even for a ghost, that's an awkward moment for me ;D

Ooh, beautiful Cedric/Harry dialogue. With the backing of the movie, it's almost canon ;)

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Date: 2005-11-19 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mecklen.livejournal.com
I don't even have anything to contribute, really, because you've said everything I would have. I'll try anyway.

It didn't seem like a long movie AT ALL, but I do think that the Dragon scene was a tad too long, especially given that they cut other things out of the movie (presummabley for time constraints). I really missed the Veritaserum scene, though. That is when everything could have been explained and wasn't. But I definitely think they did an excellent job with this one.

Oh, and yes - Harry/everyone. As Cedric was walking away from Harry after telling him about the egg, I had to add a "and I'll be waiting for you, Potter", because it just felt so right.

Date: 2005-11-19 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
All those Harry/Everyone moments! "Mrs. Skeeter, are you trying to seduce me?" Harry/Snape gave me the most pleasurable wobbles, it did. ^_^

Hm, the veritaserum--yeah, wonder how that would have been. I still didn't miss it, though; I felt we'd got enough from Moody/Crouch's speech just before.

Date: 2005-11-19 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmagrant01.livejournal.com
BEST REVIEW EVER!!!

So agree. 100%, I swear. God, you're eloquent.

*snogs and runs away*

Date: 2005-11-19 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Heeeee, I was just leaving a comment on YOUR review!! *grabs you back and snogs*

Date: 2005-11-19 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geoviki.livejournal.com
Ah, David Edelstein said the same thing about how Harry's got to be underplayed, and for the same reason, here on Slate; which I just read moments before I read this. So see, you could be a highly paid movie reviewer if you wanted to. Except we wouldn't want you to, because it might take you away from us. Never mind.

Great review.

Date: 2005-11-19 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Wah, I just went and read it and NO WAY could I have come up with the beauty that is the phrase "the peerlessly bitchy Alan Rickman." &hearts!

Date: 2005-11-19 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sciencegeek.livejournal.com
The shot where Harry looks back toward Cedric struggling with the vines in the maze and they zoom in on Harry's eyes and that long awful moment of should-I-save-him-or-go-for-the-cup decision where viewer who knows what's coming thinks, "There. That's the moment when Harry kills Cedric, at least that's the way Harry will remember it. Oh."

Oh, the beauty/agony of Harry and Deadric portkeying back to the grounds of the Third Task and the spectators breaking into joyous ignorant applause, eee. Loved how it was Fleur's scream that broke it and not just some dawning hush over the crowd.


Oh, god yes.

"It's a broom cupboard." "Well, then you should feel right at home." Didja hear that "AH!" scream from the woman in the tenth row? Then you were in my theatre and that was me.


Haha! When I went it was like, the entire theatre, and someone up top yelled "Oh no, you di-in't!"

Date: 2005-11-19 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I'm just back from a second showing and it was wonderful to watch crowd reaction a little more this time. When Moody locked the door behind Harry at the end I loved the "Uh-oh!" from the guy two rows ahead. ^_^

Date: 2005-11-19 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reposoir.livejournal.com
Best Intentionally Fabulous Moment: Snape rolling up his sleeves prior to grabbing Harry and Ron's heads.

Bwah hah hah! Too true! *squees*

Date: 2005-11-19 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I have not seen such a "Waaiiiiit for it..." in AGES. XD

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Date: 2005-11-19 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurelwood.livejournal.com
This is my favorite movie review so far. I love the way you're always able to ratchet up my excitement level- your enthusiasm is so eloquent!

I still haven't seen the movie- the kid and I are waiting for Monday night at 9:30 to weed out potential toddlers- but if I was wiggling impatiently before, now I'm skipping around in frenetic circles.

Date: 2005-11-19 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Hee, and this is me at my quiet, satisfied best, rather than my "SQUEE SQUEE SQUEE I LOVED IT!!1!!" highest! XD

Let me/us know what you thought. I can't wait for your reaction! &hearts

Date: 2005-11-19 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] satanbaker.livejournal.com
Oh, goodness, I loved it too. The most remarkable thing was that NOTHING PISSED ME OFF. I could just watch it as a movie. And I <3 Bonnie Wright, she is adorable. And I'm still clinging to my Neville/Ginny ship, even if I know it's practically doomed to fail.

And, eeeeee, Cedric. XD And omg, the bath. It seriously disturbed my mum. The fact that the actress who plays Myrtle is in her THIRTIES does not help at all, even if she is forever twelve looking. But, gawd, the pervy fangirlness.

And I'm surprised you didn't mention the ferret down the pants moment. XD; *still caught up on that one*

Date: 2005-11-19 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluemoon02.livejournal.com
Hehe....It's a dirty icon waiting to happen!

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Date: 2005-11-19 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorion.livejournal.com
I am so with you on every point ^-^

Snape rolling up his sleeves was hilarious!
Lucius was so, so perfect... He was so much more Malfoy than in the second film... *_*
Ha! Harry in the closet... I completely cracked up at that... (My son was staring at me oddly *g*)

And thanks for the drabble... How could one not think OMG!!! CD/HP!!! in this film? ^_~

Date: 2005-11-19 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Malfoy was so MALFOY in just those few words. Oh. During my second viewing I kept watching him in the background during the cemetary scenes, squee!

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Date: 2005-11-19 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kick-it-harder.livejournal.com
I completely agree with the prefects bathroom scene. I was like, blushing and feeling sort of weird watching our Harry in a bathtub with Moaning Mrytle who was very obvious with the sexual innuendos. But overall I thought it was brilliant, and I saw the movie twice in 24 hours, it gets better everytime you see it.

& Dead Cedric/Harry Potter are my true OTP.
Seriously, Cedric was very gay throughout the whole movie.

I love Snape as well :">!!!1

Date: 2005-11-19 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
*snogs every bit of your icon*

And you're right, it does get better with another viewing. Man, what if there were outtakes out there of Myrtle saying, "So...did you bring protection, Harry?"

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oh god

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Date: 2005-11-19 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telepwen.livejournal.com
But there was room for the Black sisters without the pacing being messed up...

Other than that, yeah. I agree. Especially about the pacing. It was just seamless.

And Neville. Eeeeee.

(Yes. If they cheat us out of the fantasticness of the twins' departure next movie, I will hurt someone.)

Date: 2005-11-29 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I cannot argue with the idea of the Black sisters! I suppose it would have been a bit tricky to put Narcissa at the QWC just because it would have been so quick and we'd never seen her before and everyone who wanted to see Narcissa would have been, "Aw, that wasn't enough! Bring her back!!" I woulda been!

Date: 2005-11-19 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marksykins.livejournal.com
Was waiting for your reactions. :)

You've got the essence of innocence in Harry, something the viewer can slide into and fit over themselves without those poky itchy personality quirks bothering them much.

Yes. Yes! And that's a bit why early Harry (book and film) is such a cipher for people -- they call him boring and genderless, but it's almost necessary in getting drawn into the world of magic. If he's not an Everyman, it doesn't work. But once we know him, he gets to grow, and some people are thrilled by that (*cough*me*cough*), and others aren't (think of all the criticism of Harry's characterization GoF, OotP, and HBP). I loved his growth in the book, and getting to see it on screen in drips and drabs in both PoA and GoF has been fantastic. Dan probably deserves more credit than he's given.

Oh, Harry, you had me at "I love magic," you really did, in this film.

Me too. If I hadn't been in a crowded theater with the boy and lots of strangers, I would have squealed here, definitely.

It sets them up for their moment in OotP when they leave Hogwarts in gorgeous defiance.

Yep. When they were defying things half-assedly and wrestling on the floor, I thought, "Oh, this sets up the flying off on their brooms in OotP beautifully!" I think they'll leave that in, too, because the twins give good screen.

Because if BillyElliot!Neville chose her to dance with all night, she must be okay. How about that.

Ahahaha. But yes, same here. Also, I know Ginny and Harry will end up together, but it sets up stud!Neville well, too. He's so the quiet one who gets all the girls, even if no one seems to realize it.

I write Harry Potter NC-17 smutfic and *I* was blushing, okay?

I SAID THE SAME THING. Seriously, wtf, I know I blush easily, but blushing at a canon scene in Harry Potter? You'd think with the stuff we write, we'd be immune to this, but damn!

As far as I know, Dan did all his own body work for that scene. :)

"There. That's the moment when Harry kills Cedric, at least that's the way Harry will remember it. Oh."

Yes. YES. I went, OMGJUSTBESELFISHANDLEAVEHIM! even though it's frickin' Harry Potter and you know he just can't. *SIGH*

"It's a broom cupboard." "Well, then you should feel right at home."

You weren't in my theater. :\ I was the ONLY ONE in my showing who gasped at that. I felt so...canonically alone. Hee.

AND THE DRABBLE, YES. Oh, like icing on a fabulous Amy cake. *gobbles*

Date: 2005-11-19 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Oh, you are adorable and I love everything you have to say. Yes, we love our innocent Harry and love watching him go all CAPSLOCK and think, "It's about time," rather than "What's with whiny Harry?" And oh, oh, too noble to leave Cedric behind and go get that cup. Wah.

And I had not so much a noisy theatre or a crowded one the first time as much as an unabashed one. There were giggles and yells and cheers from random places (including the person I was with). Good times.

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Date: 2005-11-19 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itsirtou.livejournal.com
Just because I'm horribly curious -- what were your thoughts on Krum?

Date: 2005-11-19 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I loved him! I loved him in a satisfied way that won't allow me to be cleverer about it than that. ^_^ I remember thinking that I wanted more of him, wanted to hear him say more. And then I remembered, "How much does he talk in the BOOK, you ninny? Almost none, duh!"

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Date: 2005-11-19 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orange-bastard.livejournal.com
Excellent review! I just loved the guy that played Moody, he was brilliant. I thought Dumbledore was a bit over the top, esp. when he went apeshit on Harry about putting his name in the Goblet. The twins were so much fun, I can't wait for the next film either. This one was my favorite by far.

Date: 2005-11-19 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Moody was fab. Just brilliant, ever twitch and every line. I sort of liked Dumbledore going all protective freak-out; it was a nice ramp-up from PoA. And so far I feel about the film as I once did about the books--each one's part of a continuum that keeps getting more and more exciting.

Date: 2005-11-19 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wren-chan.livejournal.com
Yes~ ! Right! Completely!

Especially the OMG Innuendo Everywhere part. My best friend and I spent the entire movie whispering things like 'Harry! Push Rita out of the closet and scream 'Bad Touch! Bad Touch!' or 'OMG, he's coming on to me, isn't he? He *is*! ...what? Cedric, that would honestly have been less confusing if you'd just out-and-out propositioned me, please and thank you...' and MYRTLE! OMG MYRTLE! MARRY ME~~!

*.* at drabble. Wow. Harry and Cedric--my Tragic OTP.

Date: 2005-11-19 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
'Harry! Push Rita out of the closet and scream 'Bad Touch! Bad Touch!'
--OMG that so needs to be an icon! *dies laughing*

I LOVE the tragic OTP of Harry/Cedric, I do. I hope there's more fic about them after this!

Date: 2005-11-19 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluemoon02.livejournal.com
The shot where Harry looks back toward Cedric struggling with the vines in the maze and they zoom in on Harry's eyes and that long awful moment of should-I-save-him-or-go-for-the-cup decision where viewer who knows what's coming thinks, "There. That's the moment when Harry kills Cedric, at least that's the way Harry will remember it. Oh."

I saw that shot, gasped and hissed, "It's Harry's Frodo moment!" Seriously, watch it again. He stole that eye slide from Elijah Wood. Elijah should sue!

Date: 2005-11-19 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
*dies laughing* Omigod that's beautiful. Both the evidence AND your outrage!

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Date: 2005-11-19 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_outercourse/
Lucius/Cane/Harry's Sleeve = OT3.

Haha I remember seeing that and thinking, "Omg, it's like I'm watching an [livejournal.com profile] amanuensis1 fic!" Hee.


Most Evil Line Ever: "It's a broom cupboard." "Well, then you should feel right at home." Didja hear that "AH!" scream from the woman in the tenth row? Then you were in my theatre and that was me.

That was everyone in my theater. Bitch didn't even get told by the end of the movie. Hopefully she does in the next movie.

Date: 2005-11-19 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
OMG, the cane-fangs pinning the sleeve thing was like they said, "Oh, okay, this is for [livejournal.com profile] amanuensis1 and all her like-minded colleagues." ^_^

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