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Dear Mr. Verdugo,

If pornography is a crime in which women are the victims, does this mean that gay male porn is okay? Oh, that's a relief.

Love,
Amanuensis

Date: 2005-09-24 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harvest-blue.livejournal.com
Why am I not surprised that he's from Mississippi? *rolls eyes at college's state* Oh well.

Date: 2005-09-24 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
The hate-agenda curdles my gut something fierce.

Date: 2005-09-24 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/oceana_/
Pictures of naked men doing THINGS, unSPEAKable things with other, even MORE naked men!
ARGH!
*runs away*
Thank god that Mr Verdugo is there to save me from the evil that threatens to take over my brain and me. And thank god that I have the perfect icon for this occasion...

Date: 2005-09-24 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Yes! It is the perfect icon! In fact I should insist that everyone use naughty icons on this post.

Date: 2005-09-24 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melonaise.livejournal.com
Wow. I had no idea there was anything to prosecute in consenting-adult porn.

But should porn be a priority in a place like Miami, where serious crime is rampant? "It's all part of the same thing, of the organized crime syndicate," Sharp said. "It has an effect on children."

As someone who grew up in Miami, I can say that I did not feel at all threatened by porn, and that I really would have rather they did something about the crack house across the street sooner (which later did a stint as a whore house, and then a nursing home).

Date: 2005-09-24 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Oh, yes, part of the organized crime syndicate, because it's, you know, legal. Um, wait a minute.

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Date: 2005-09-24 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sciencegeek.livejournal.com
I think it's because my brain is tired, but all I can think of is "...WTF?"

Date: 2005-09-24 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
It's okay, you're not remotely the only one. *pets your brain*

It's all so stupid.

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Date: 2005-09-24 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] cheshyre
In all seriousness and sadness, I've actually read some anti-porn rhetoric that follows the Mackinnon/Dworkin ideology.

Depending on the argument, gay male porn denigrates women either by putting one of the men into a female role, or by its utter absense of women.

No, it doesn't make sense to me, either.

Date: 2005-09-24 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
"Absence of..."

Okay, by that logic, my cheez whiz denigrates my napkin holder by its absence of napkin holders.

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Date: 2005-09-24 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bridebrooke.livejournal.com
Sorry to be serious, but you should be concern for a lot of different reasons.

Date: 2005-09-24 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I need to use sarcasm because otherwise I'll be ranty. This is so horrific, their agenda, their hate--I'm about ready to start wearing a button that reads "I am a woman and I am a pornographer" and organizing "Women For Porn" marches, y'know?

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Date: 2005-09-24 06:44 pm (UTC)
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Even if they take away our videos..we'll always have talented fan artists :3

Date: 2005-09-24 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
But we won't let them take away our videos, will we? Because we're stronger than that.

Date: 2005-09-24 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silveredsins.livejournal.com
Wow. That is frightening.

Date: 2005-09-24 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
They're gonna win this fight if we're not careful because we'll all have too much head trauma from all the headdesking to rally, geez-o-cripes.

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Date: 2005-09-24 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rubynye.livejournal.com
I want to comment intelligently, but I spent ten minutes staring at your mood icon. Are those Harry's glasses in Draco's TEETH?

Stil, here's my agreement, my outrage, and my porn icon.

Date: 2005-09-24 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Yes, they are! Go friend [livejournal.com profile] flimsy right away. ^_^

And staring at the porn for 10 minutes is pro-porn. You win.

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Date: 2005-09-24 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ekaterinn.livejournal.com
Fucking ridiculous. What a waste of time and resources. *uses porniest icon she has*

Date: 2005-09-24 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Awesome. Lookit this, Messieurs Verdugo and Acosta, BOYS KISSING! And we women LIKE IT! Run away cowering, why don't you!

Date: 2005-09-24 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ziasudra-fic.livejournal.com
The internet is for porn. Those cute little puppets said so, it must be true!

Date: 2005-09-24 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Exactly! What are they not getting?

Date: 2005-09-24 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ariadneelda.livejournal.com
Arghhh, this guy is such a narrow-minded moron! (To put it mildly - I can hardly restrain myself from swearing.)

And damn, I don't have a porny enough icon. This is way too tame. Although it is from a gay porn movie. *g*

Date: 2005-09-24 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
It's beautiful. I could cry if I weren't so turned on. ^_^

Date: 2005-09-24 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orange-bastard.livejournal.com


Sorry, I'm obnoxious :D

Date: 2005-09-24 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
You're splendid. This should be all over the damn lj, I swear.

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Date: 2005-09-24 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amorettea.livejournal.com
Drug dealers, smugglers, crime bosses, tend to be armed and dangerous. Smut purveyors like yours truly aren't. So, . .going after smut is easy and safe. Whew. I saved another neighborhood from nekked titties. Pity about the crack house and the smuggled illegals and the money laundering but NO NEKKEDNESS.

Idiots.

Amorette

Date: 2005-09-25 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
*runs about nekkid*

Date: 2005-09-25 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notrafficlights.livejournal.com
Mmmmmm hot victimised ukes. Wait... what were we talking about?

Date: 2005-09-25 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
*laughs* Nothing, go back to perusing. Mmm, porn...

Date: 2005-09-25 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandralynch.livejournal.com
Nothing like wasting time painting the walls while the house is burning down, is there? Porn is good, porn makes people happy. Happy people are a good thing. It's very simple.

Date: 2005-09-25 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Yes, it is that simple. When is everyone gonna figure that out?

Date: 2005-09-25 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leni-jess.livejournal.com
If Gonzales and Acosta (and Bush and his best friends) get what they want, the USA is going to be in a far worse situation than Australia. At least here we just define child pornography rigorously enough to catch everything from John and Mary Grow Up [fictional title] to Lolita, if an Australian posted it on the net. These days we don't throw precious resources at what consenting adults do (much). You people are going to have energy and funding taken away from stuff that damages and kills people and shreds local economies.

Sympathies. Isn't it sad to have to have the prospect of needing to rely on porn wholesalers to get government to concentrate on the important stuff? because the ordinary consenting adult can't afford (financially, socially, familially - if there is such a word) to defend him or herself from that kind of machinery.

Nothing to say on the neanderthal views of how sex works, either between man and woman or man and man or [after all, let's not be exclusive here, there are several more options before the list can be considered complete]...

I don't have a porny icon (alas), so shall comment on the intelligence level instead.

Date: 2005-09-25 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
I keep saying that anti-pornographers are threatened by the internet because now we no longer need to put on dark glasses and go to the seedy parts of town to find bad porn. Now we can get it in the comfort of our own living rooms, and ooooooh they can't have THAT.

Date: 2005-09-25 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunulet.livejournal.com
Omg, genius. Attack organized crime, drug addiction, and parking violations where they're most vulnerable: PORN! It's so much easier than fighting crime the old way.

*gives them the prize*

Date: 2005-09-25 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
*intercepts the prize, runs off with it and buys more porn*

Date: 2005-09-25 03:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] venivincere
Cut from the article:

Taylor is one of the founding members of the Justice Department's National Obscenity Enforcement Unit back in the 1980s. He reportedly has prosecuted more than 100 state and federal obscenity cases and is the prosecutor who went after Hustler publisher Larry Flynt in the early 1980s. He won that case and Flynt spent six days in jail, but the case was overturned on appeal.

And how many of our tax dollars did Taylor spend on that? Hustler never went under for it, Flynt got a week's vacation he didn't even have to pack for, and in the mean time, our deficit under Reagan was growing hand over fist, and the rich were getting richer and the poor, poorer at an alarming rate, and no one said "Boo" about any of that.

Acosta and Gonzales have their heads up their arses just as much as Taylor did, and no one's looking at the consequences of that. The money they waste might be a drop in the bucket compared to the deficit, but would certainly go a long way in fighting poverty in this nation and directly saving lives. Hypocritical of them, isn't it? Criminally hypocritical, I'd say.

Date: 2005-09-25 03:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] venivincere
Oh, and I forgot my porny icon. Here you go. Look! It's a cock in an arse! *shock*

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Date: 2005-09-25 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frankie-lee.livejournal.com
The way religious fundamentalism (pick a religion, any religion) actively denies basic human bodily functions by labeling them "unnatural" is far more of a threat to our children's mental health than porn. The way religious fundamentalism focuses on repressing basic human bodily functions instead of keeping human bodies safe... Well, a vein nearly popped in my temple when I read that to combat adult porn resources will have to be diverted from stopping the exploitation of children.

Let's place bets on how long it takes for someone to spot Mr. Acosta and company leaving a strip club or listed in a Madame's little black book.

Date: 2005-09-25 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
God, please, let his torrid sexual affairs become a discovered event of epic proportions.

Date: 2005-09-25 06:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alyndra
Porn is a crime in which women are the victims.

Dude, I hate to agree with him, but I just watched my first cable 'Adult' movies, and I think fandom's spoiled me. I wasn't really expecting that there would be hot gay sex -- although there was this one absolutely perfect setup they just threw away, even if they couldn't have the two guys shag they could have shot an orgy, I would've been happy with that -- although there was some lesbian action.

But -- and here's where I'm feeling victimized -- Over the course of several movies, including many different couples and scenarios, I did not get to see a single cock. Seriously. Practically every scene had breasts, buttocks, and miles of nekkid skin, and lots of them showed female genitalia, but not a phallus in sight. Why the hell were they working so damn hard to show everything but that one particular thing? Maybe it's unreasonable to expect adult pornagraphic movies to show actual naked bodies and any and all particular parts thereof, but dammit I hadn't thought so. I mean, it's not like they have to avoid showing things so they can stay at a lower rating!

It's discrimination, that's what it is, against all the women viewers out there who want to watch and we should write letters saying how victimized we are feeling about this.

Um, .

Date: 2005-09-25 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Ha, I think it's a tangential issue but you're EVER so right. It's as if these individuals believe all porn is this really sexist stuff, when porn is/should be an equal opportunity employer. Shall we start a "Where is the COCK in my porn?" campaign?

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Date: 2005-09-25 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorion.livejournal.com
Adult porn is prosecuted???

"What, you killed someone? Well, at least you didn't watch porn while you did it... You can go. Shoo!"

Date: 2005-09-25 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
But porn is the root of all violence, didn't you know that? Because men see this stuff and then they need to go kill women.

(I HEAR this s*it. Frequently.)

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Date: 2005-09-25 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loony-moony.livejournal.com
<3333333 HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Date: 2005-09-25 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Okay, your icon is scaring me. *hides*

Wandering LJ at work and ... synchronicity!

Date: 2005-09-26 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auctasinistra.livejournal.com
This from a Minneapolis Star Tribune editorial excoriating the fool and his fundamentalist supporters -- something to think about:
"As the Post points out, adult porn has changed quite a lot in the past decade. No longer is it considered a seedy business populated by lowlifes. Some of its stars are now public figures; health and safety concerns are taken seriously, and its "production values" sometimes approach those of Hollywood. It is now a multibillion-dollar industry thanks to the Internet and cable television. And its profits flow to such mainstream businesses as General Electric, Time Warner, the News Corp. (owner of Fox News, TV Guide, the Times of London) and major hotel chains."

Yet another way in which people like Gonzales and Bush are completely sans a clue.

Re: Wandering LJ at work and ... synchronicity!

Date: 2005-09-26 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com
Moreover, sometimes you can hardly tell the mainstream stuff from the stuff meant to titillate. HBO nekkidness, anyone?

Date: 2006-07-26 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] godlikepiro.livejournal.com
Heh, you know, I first learned about this when I was surfing on SuicideGirls and I noticed that some of the galleries were taken down, because they had things in them like fake blood, or insinuating masochism or sadism, and I read about it and found out why. You know..I keep on thinking that with everything the current Administration is doing, the American people might stand up and say
"First it was standerdized tesing, and now it's our right to marry, well not today Mr. Bush."
"Or first it was a meaningless war and now we learn that there is no WOMD, well not now Mr. Bush."
Maybe now we'll get a "First it was all that other shit you did to us and now it's our porn? Well not freaking now Mr Freaking President!"
Gawd, I was so angry when I learned about this, I had to write a journal. Now that's anger. Rawr.

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