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amanuensis1 ([personal profile] amanuensis1) wrote2009-07-10 06:02 am
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Torchwood Children of Earth Ep 4 (Spoilers)





I want this actress to get whatever the English equivalent of an Emmy is. Jeebus, that was fantastic.


...oh, you thought I was going to talk about that other thing? Well, why not.

1.) It doesn't make sense for them to have killed off so many members of the team and then to kill off more. Unless the series is ending completely.

BUT

2.) It doesn't make sense to give a character a long emotional death scene like that and then go "FAKE" one episode later.

So, yeah, there are little hints Ianto might not stay dead ("He will die," says the 4-5-6, as if there might be a while before everyone's actually dead. It's alien poison, who knows) (and Gwen's "There's nothing we can do," is just ripe for contradiction) but I'm trying to deal with the likelihood he's toast. If that's so, then I'd prefer the series end. Most of us aren't watching Torchwood in a "I only like the Jack And Gwen Show, all the other characters can go f**k themselves" way, so they'll piss off more viewers than they'll entertain if they've killed off this much of the regular cast.

[identity profile] lycoris.livejournal.com 2009-07-10 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
She was fantastic. All the acting's been very good actually, on the whole. I just unfortunately absolutely lost my last bit of care when Ianto died. I ... actually kind of actively hate Jack a bit and I don't think I like Gwen and Rhys enough to go any furthur with this. (especially since they'll probably die soon if there is a season 4!) And if they bring him back, I may actually be more annoyed because mostly, in DW and Torchwood we have discovered that bringing people back to life is very bad indeed. So suddenly making it okay just cause it's Ianto ... wouldn't really work for me. I'm really sad that he's dead but I'd like him to stay dead now he is. If that all makes sense ...

[identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com 2009-07-10 11:00 am (UTC)(link)
It makes complete sense. We don't want characters to die but we don't want poorly executed bring-back cheats.

[identity profile] lycoris.livejournal.com 2009-07-10 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I really hate back cheats. If you're going to kill someone, it should matter. I have seen a couple of good ones (Sherlock Holmes I felt worked but then I always knew it happened so maybe it doens't count. Buffy was usually quite good at this actually, when it did it) but quite often, it's just annoying and cheap and makes you feel that you wasted a huge amount of emotional energy. I prefer dead to mean dead, on the whole.

[identity profile] sorion.livejournal.com 2009-07-10 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. But I still don't want to watch the show without him. He's too much part of it.
So, even if they continue, I wouldn't care and just stick to fics or something.

[identity profile] lycoris.livejournal.com 2009-07-10 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I completely agree. I've watched it tonight and then I'm giving up on Torchwood. I've never really enjoyed it anyway and I'm tired of the high body count! (and I don't like bleakness very much either. Not unremittingly) Torchwood and I were never good bedfellows really.